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[Bill Beauregard]

I bought the Dewalt router with three bases. But I mostly leave it attached to the router table.

I'm looking to buy a router table for school. Sometimes it looks like it would be easier for younger kids.
I have a 7th/8th grade wood shop class.

Can't decide if that would be safer, or more dangerous, than using the regular router though.

Every hand held tool is very hazardous. I've spent a lifetime using the biggest hand held drills on the market at the time. The only injury I ever suffered was of my dignity one day when a 4-1/2 " hole saw on a 18" arbor went errant, and swallowed my pants. Not a drop of blood was shed that day, but I'm not mentioning embarrassment.

A year and change ago I observed a counter man in a plumbing supply store struggling to put an auxiliary handle on a compact cordless drill. I was amused. A little drill like that won't require an extra long handle. Ten minutes later, I bought two of them. The first time I used mine with a 4" hole saw cutting through multi layers of sheathing boards, clapboards, lath, and plaster, sheetrock, I injured my rotator cuff in my right shoulder. Adding the auxiliary handle, and trying again, I finished off my rotator cuff. A year plus later, I'm back to normal.

Tools are dangerous, Without coaching, tools are very dangerous. Personally, based purely on logic, a stationary tool seems less hazardous than one that can swing around, engaging flesh.

There was a show on television called, (I recall) Real Stories Of The E. R. There was a man standing on a ten foot tall step ladder, It sat on uneven ground. Reaching over his head, probably too high for his ladder, he used a Hole Hog, a Milwaukee drill notorious for injuries. The auger bit, made for wood was 18" long, 1" diameter. His ladder gave way, he fell, and the still running drill drove the auger in his eye, and out the top of his skull.

Miraculously, he survived, and will spend the rest of his life with coloring books, and crayons.

[Bill Beauregard]

PS: I'm sort of saying that whatever happens at Welding Web will happen without us. They haven't opted to confide in us. They will, or won't be back. In the meantime, no thread ever was more ripe for a derail.

Willie

[MinnesotaDave]

**** New update ****

THIS JUST IN FROM FIX IT CENTRAL IN NEW YORK..

We have not forgotten about you. The IT team is literally piecing our sites back together one by one, and byte by byte, from the failed SAN array. It’s obviously a catastrophic issue.

[Louie1961]

from the failed SAN array. It’s obviously a catastrophic issue.

Wow...completely preventable.

[Franz©]

2 + 2 generally = 4.
Penton hasn't been able to make a thin dime on WeldingWeb in a couple years.
I seem to recall a comment from some executive mood eraser over there that Penton had turned the site over to the Mood erasers to run. Penton probably finally figured out they made a bad buy back in 06 when they bought Welding Web.

Penton operates a truckload of sites, many agriculture and some trucking. Something happened and the whole place crapped.

As of yesterday the trucking and agriculture sites are back up and running with no apparent loss of content.

As of now, 2 sites that didn't make Penton money are still down with the same message.

I have my doubt content of Welding Web and the other similar site was lost. Fact is I'll bet a whole Dime if and when somebody makes a financial offer to Penton that content can be bought, but I don't figure Penton will ever host or provide WeldingWeb again unless somebody pays them an insane price to do so.

Maybe Penton will bring it back as some sort of subscription site for those willing to pay to play.

Way back before most of you came along, WeldingWeb was a dead backwater with 3 members when an affirmative action employee of Indochina Thug Works supervised Hobart Expert ROCK walking the plank on a Friday afternoon before driving her all important self home. When she came to work Monday Hobart's board was pretty damn empty, and Welding Web was the hottest site in the family of Lawnsite, Plowsite and Welding Web. Things went well for a while till the fool who bragged about dropping a barn on himself and the Bobcat he was running got the idea he could put a fat kid with a weed wacker in charge. He coined the term Garbage Gang, and watched Welding Web become what Penton bought cheap.

Penton's been through Bankruptcy since then and is probably on their 3rd team of college boys playing with keyboards and business models. My money says they're playing suckers to see if a buyer pops up.
Welding Web is just another shop that closed leaving some good men figuring out how to get their toolboxes out.

Between fools with phones smarter than they are and clouds, most sites are crapping out anyhow, not enough people smart enough to read need BookFace and videos for conventional sites to stay in business.

[jwmelvin]

So what are the best options for a welding forum now? I like this place but it’s a bit sparse. Are there other good ones? GJ fab subforum? Millerwelds forum? As a newbie I was learning a ton from WW.

[MinnesotaDave]

So what are the best options for a welding forum now? I like this place but it’s a bit sparse. Are there other good ones? GJ fab subforum? Millerwelds forum? As a newbie I was learning a ton from WW.

I go on tractorbynet.com sometimes.
It's a little sparse too, but has some interesting conversations.
The other sub-forums there are really large with lots of new stuff to learn about.

[ODIS]

The Hobart forum is still as dead as a door nail. They haven't had much activity since they started blocking porn spambots a few months ago.

[Bill Beauregard]

This forum will grow as it fills a void. It is a great group poised for greater content. Here, I've always wished more experts would contribute. For his own reasons, Jody is not an active participant here. Nobody will ever accuse this site of being top heavy.
I wonder if some people at Heavy Equipment Forum smelled what was coming, there have been suggestions of a welding sub forum there. Like Welding Web, Heavy equipment forum is mostly amateurs. There are experts, but they are outnumbered by those seeking information. I find HEF to be a great group of people, maybe even more uninformed than Welding Web.

[TheWeldingConnector]

This forum will grow as it fills a void. It is a great group poised for greater content. Here, I've always wished more experts would contribute. For his own reasons, Jody is not an active participant here. Nobody will ever accuse this site of being top heavy.
I wonder if some people at Heavy Equipment Forum smelled what was coming, there have been suggestions of a welding sub forum there. Like Welding Web, Heavy equipment forum is mostly amateurs. There are experts, but they are outnumbered by those seeking information. I find HEF to be a great group of people, maybe even more uninformed than Welding Web.

I hope it does. I ended up here when Welding Web went down.

[weldin mike 27]

Here's hoping we don't attract too many from WW. They have theirs and we have ours, is what I've heard.

[Louie1961]

Here's hoping we don't attract too many from WW. They have theirs and we have ours, is what I've heard.

Probably not true. There are a lot of people on this board and in this thread who frequent both sites. I think its just a matter of most have been more active on WW than here.

[HT2-4956]

Well I found my way over here by searching on "what happened to welding web". Been following the situation by reading on the HEF, Tractor and Miller forums also.

Had signed up on the Miller forum along time ago (at around the time I signed up for Welding Web) but couldn't remember what screen name or password I used. Couldn't start a new account because it said that my email address already had an account associated with it. Tried doing the "forgot password" thing several times but it's not generating and sending me an email like it's suppose to be doing. If any one here knows how to bring that to the attention of the admin (or one of the moderators) over there I'd appreciate it.

Still hoping the situation at Welding Web gets sorted out but in the meantime.......

[MinnesotaDave]

From head moderator Zap

ATTENTION IN THE PITS!
ATTENTION IN THE PITS!

Word is that all Penton websites will be back maybe tomorrow..(Monday)...
Welding web members stay tuned...

[ljdm1956]

Here's hoping we don't attract too many from WW. They have theirs and we have ours, is what I've heard.

Probably not true. There are a lot of people on this board and in this thread who frequent both sites. I think its just a matter of most have been more active on WW than here.

Gotta get rid of the theirs/ours, import/american, young/old, etc, etc, mindset, and try and focus on the reason for posting on any of the welding forums -Welding. Plain and simple.

[tungstendipper]

Here's hoping we don't attract too many from WW. They have theirs and we have ours, is what I've heard.

Probably not true. There are a lot of people on this board and in this thread who frequent both sites. I think its just a matter of most have been more active on WW than here.

Gotta get rid of the theirs/ours, import/american, young/old, etc, etc, mindset, and try and focus on the reason for posting on any of the welding forums -Welding. Plain and simple.

I agree! It will never happen; that's just how people are wired. I'm just glad we don't talk politics!

[mechanic416]

Here's hoping we don't attract too many from WW. They have theirs and we have ours, is what I've heard.

Man that's a PPA to have

[Franz©]

Looking more and more like the British Company who bought Penton decided to scrap Penton's stupid boards that don't make a buck, or is that Pound or possibly even Euro.

Everything that made money from Trucking to Agriculture and back has been up and running for a week.

The Brits probably assigned WelderbaterWeb to a Lucas Electric server. Zap is undoubtedly driving his Dodge over to England to fix the server. The rest of the crossing guards are following along in a cardboard boat 7A taped up in the shipping room he works in.

[Antorcha]

BRITZ ? That explains everything. Cancel July 4. They won in 1913

[Wen]

Weldingweb.com is back online. Just FYI... But this is the best welding web site....

[ljdm1956]

Weldingweb.com is back online. Just FYI... But this is the best welding web site....

Back on and off, not seeing it here yet.

[Bill Beauregard]

Welding Web was free to me. It provided knowledge I haven't found access to in the 56 years before, that I wondered about welding. I never had access to skilled people until a few welding forums, and most of all; Jody, and others making, and posting videos.

For the enlightenment they provided, I am grateful to Penton Media, and their subscribers, and their excellent moderators. I thank Zap for his TIG clinics, the first time I ever saw an expert TIG weld.

If Welding Web, is gone, and utterly in the past, I am still a richer person for what I learned.

Thank you Zap, 7A749, Dave, Shovelon, and others, and Penton Media for what I have gained. Neither I, or anyone else have the right to condemn for the end of Welding Web.

Willie

[Bill Beauregard]

Update: I just tried to log in, it doesn't work.

[ljdm1956]

Update: I just tried to log in, it doesn't work.

I can't even see the log in page, still at error message