Welding Tips and Tricks

Anybody know whats going on over at Welding Web?? Been "forbidden" for a few days now.

-corn-

I have not been able to log on since Sunday

You must have criticised everlast. Lol. Lucky you.

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cornmuse wrote:Anybody know whats going on over at Welding Web?? Been "forbidden" for a few days now.

-corn-

People on a few forums are asking the same question. Started out as "maintenance" issue, now forbidden/no access. I read someone msg'd the mods there, they don't know whats up either.

ljdm1956 wrote:

cornmuse wrote:Anybody know whats going on over at Welding Web?? Been "forbidden" for a few days now.

-corn-

People on a few forums are asking the same question. Started out as "maintenance" issue, now forbidden/no access. I read someone msg'd the mods there, they don't know whats up either.

You're right, I'm one of the mods and neither me or Steve know right now.
I'll be sure to tell people if I find out something though.

Warrenh wrote:You must have criticised everlast. Lol. Lucky you.

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Criticizing everlast is fine, I do it all the time - lol.

That's not nice Dave, you want to get Livingstone all upset

mechanic416 wrote:That's not nice Dave, you want to get Livingstone all upset

Haha!

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if Weldingweb ever comes back up there was a fellow over there than posted a comparison of the internals on an HTP Invertig 221 vs an Everlast unit. The difference was night and day. I think he did a video about it to. Look on youtube you might find it. It was quite enlightening.

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There is a post on the Weld.com forum, in off-topic area, explaining the problem with WW, server problems.
Internals Everlast vs Invertig, same comparison as KIA vs rolls royce, one costs a lot more, but main concern is does it get the job done

MinnesotaDave wrote:

mechanic416 wrote:That's not nice Dave, you want to get Livingstone all upset

Haha!

I spent a week twisting his tail. It became like a sport. Livingstone I mean. Lol

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mechanic416 wrote:That's not nice Dave, you want to get Livingstone all upset

Where is he anyways. I haven't seen him around lately.

Farmwelding wrote:

mechanic416 wrote:That's not nice Dave, you want to get Livingstone all upset

Where is he anyways. I haven't seen him around lately.

If I recall correctly, he got shown the door. I don't recall that being a secret, but a big deal wasn't made about it either.
Not trying to step on any toes, that's just what I remember and could always be wrong.
For the record, I'm not a moderator here and don't want to cause any problems.

Head weldingweb moderator posted this today:

Got it from a insider..
ALL WEBSITES ASSOCIATED WITH PENTON MEDIA HAVE CRASHED.
MAIN HOST SERVER IS DOWN..
DATA RECOVERY IS IN PROGRESS BUT...

IT DONT LOOK GOOD.

ALL INFO WILL BE PASSED ON AS I GET IT.

THAT IS ALL

wonder if they had the proverbial backups?

It’s shocking to think someone has a web site in 2018 without a backup.

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cornmuse wrote:Anybody know whats going on over at Welding Web?? Been "forbidden" for a few days now.

-corn-

I do not know it's off internet for most week

Dave

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Yea, so that's why I have backup's.

It’s shocking to think someone has a web site in 2018 without a backup.

True, but in the age of cloud, why even have a server anymore? Put it all up in the cloud, get 99.99 server availability and 99.99999 data durability, for much less than the cost of buying a server or traditional hosting. it is super easy and dead simple.

Louie1961 wrote:True, but in the age of cloud, why even have a server anymore? Put it all up in the cloud, get 99.99 server availability and 99.99999 data durability, for much less than the cost of buying a server or traditional hosting. it is super easy and dead simple.

One phrase I like is "There is no cloud, it's just someone else's computer."

For sure it makes sense for web sites to be hosted by a service provider, not the content provider, in most cases. But what service provider doesn't maintain geographically disperse backups? Or perhaps the issue is that the content provider didn't bother checking how the the service provider's backups worked.

But you seem to be distinguishing "traditional hosting" from "the cloud." I'm not sure that's a valid distinction. Traditional hosting is the cloud and should include backups. But it may require that the content provider manually implement backups to some degree. I guess WW just chose a bad cloud (or ran it's own servers in an incompetent manner).

But you seem to be distinguishing "traditional hosting" from "the cloud." I'm not sure that's a valid distinction

Actually it is a valid distinction. I work for the world largest cloud provider. The way we engineer for durability across multiple availability zones, the self healing of servers, and the autoscaling really make it much more than just somebody else's computer. We could lose entire data centers and your web site won't ever go down. The way our cloud is built is actually quite amazing.

Traditional hosting is the cloud and should include backups.

We don't do backups in the traditional sense (tapes, and what not). We keep multiple copies of your data in object stores across multiple geographic regions. Recovery can be instant, near instant or somewhat delayed, depending on the class of object store you want to pay for. But our object store pricing is about half the cost of a traditional backup.