General welding questions that dont fit in TIG, MIG, Stick, or Certification etc.
tolearn
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Hello…

Would like an opinion from you guys with more experience.

What would be a preferred setup to cover all the welding materials?

A jack of all trade multiprocessor three in one machine such as the following.

Miller multimatic 200 mig, dc tig, stick 110/220
Tweco 211I mig, tig, stick 110/220
LONGEVITY PROMTS 252i mig, tig, stick 110/220

Or dedicated task with the following machines or similar?

Hobart Handler 210mvp Mig
Everlast Powertig 185 AC/DC Tig Stick welder 11//220
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Artie F. Emm
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Welcome to the forum!

I'll start out by saying I don't own a MIG/TIG/Stick machine and I haven't used one. What I notice about the three machines you listed is that they are DC TIG only, meaning they don't TIG weld aluminum. Also, the duty cycle looked a little light, which may be another consideration for you. I was interested to see the Tweco machine could handle MIG wires .023, .030, .035, and .045.

Have you welded in the past? (Just curious.) One rule of thumb for a multi-process machine is not to rely solely on one machine to run a business, since if one process goes down, you lose the other processes while the machine is out for repair.
Dave
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tolearn
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Artie you are correct about multiprocessor machine cannot due ac tig no aluminum welding.

I'm aware multiprocessor have some advantages like small foot print portability

Artie I have done some light welding in my time not a pro by any means of the the imagination.

I am interested in expanding my skills and looking in purchasing proper equipment first time around.

My opinion multiprocessor machine are like the old saying jack of all trades master of none.

Im more inclined in owning two machines a 110/220 mig & a 110/220 DC/AC Tig stick machine diversifying makes more sence to me however still interested in hearing all the angles from more experience people.

Thanks...
Artie F. Emm
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tolearn wrote: Im more inclined in owning two machines a 110/220 mig & a 110/220 DC/AC Tig stick machine diversifying makes more sence
I think you've nailed it with sentence. I'm a hobbyist too, and it >sounds< like you're jazzed with the possibilities of welding and want to get comfortable with as many processes as possible. I'm totally with you on that... but I'm sure you'll find that once you get past the "surface" appeal of the different processes, there is SO much to learn to get more than just adequately good at a given process. So it may be worthwhile to start a little slower, collect the right gear as you need it instead of in advance, buying the wrong stuff.

For instance: to weld you need welding gloves, right? Not necessarily. I've found that I prefer to use a lighter work glove rather than a heavy chunky welding glove (cheaper, better tactile sense, cross-purposing...). Then there's the process-specific equipment you need: MIG shielding gas is different than TIG shielding gas, and can't be interchanged, so why buy pure argon (TIG) that just sits there while you're learning MIG (pure co2, or argon-co2 mix).

Plus, it's frankly more fun to learn about a new process and decide what features are important to YOU, then score a deal on Craig's List on your ideal machine.

Enough out of me. Good luck with it!
Dave
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No multi process machine has AC TIG! So if you want AC. Get 2 dedicated machines. The 185 is a nice machine or get the AHP200x.
Have not used the Hobart. Lots of folks really like it though.
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You can get ac Tig stick plasma. Everlast power pro I believe. Not Mig though.
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weldin mike 27 wrote:You can get ac Tig stick plasma. Everlast power pro I believe. Not Mig though.
And you can have it break on you shortly after you use it and spend 6+ months in repair.
All in one machines are great just not when they involve plasma cutters.
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True.
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Take my advise because I was the idiot that tried to run my business with a multiprocess machine only and got burnt! It would be handy if you do a lot of portable work but if you are wanting to weld in a shop or garage then buy separate but buy them dual voltage to maintain portability. Trust me I went down that road and drove off a cliff.
It's always best to build your own, especially when it comes to hitches!!!
Matt
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