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Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:21 pm
by Unit562
Hey ya'll,
My boss set aside a machine he bought a few years back when his company started growing and never ended up utilizing it. I've been bugging him about letting me take it for a while now, and where it was being stored is getting turned into offices so he is letting me take her home. I need some help identifying it, it looks like it was painted a long time ago to look like a Miller. All tags were removed as well. I appreciate any feedback and once I get it moved to my shop I'll let ya'll know how she runs.ImageImageImageImage

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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:43 pm
by JayWal
I see I’m not the only one repairing steel strapping carts all the time lol

Congrats on getting that machine. Interested to know how she runs, love fooling around with the old transformer rigs


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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:06 pm
by Poland308
It’s a miller! I’m not sure what model but no doubt about it. From the 5 pin connection I’d say mid 70’s to mid 80’s.

Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:11 pm
by LtBadd
Maybe there'd be a ID sticker on an inside panel?

Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:26 pm
by Unit562
Poland308 wrote:It’s a miller! I’m not sure what model but no doubt about it. From the 5 pin connection I’d say mid 70’s to mid 80’s.
I cant find any pictures of anything earlier than a Deltaweld 450, which is a different layout woth gauges on the opposite side of the face. I scratched some of the paint off, then looked for places they missed with the rattle can. The base coat is a cream color.

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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:26 pm
by Unit562
LtBadd wrote:Maybe there'd be a ID sticker on an inside panel?
As soon as I get her home I'm going to look.

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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:43 pm
by Poland308
Even with a different color underneath it still says miller. Might have been sold under another name but Miller.

Edit
Hobart is Miller and it’s cream/white.

Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:47 pm
by Poland308

Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:48 pm
by Unit562
Poland308 wrote:Even with a different color underneath it still says miller. Might have been sold under another name but Miller.

Edit
Hobart is Miller and it’s cream/white.
ITW (Millers parent company) didn't aquire Hobart until 1996.

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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:48 pm
by Poland308
Maybe on paper but the resemblance is suggestive. Also they outsourced everything over 250 amps for long before they got bought out.

Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:32 pm
by Unit562
Poland308 wrote:Maybe on paper but the resemblance is suggestive. Also they outsourced everything over 250 amps for long before they got bought out.
Well I managed to get ahold of someone at Miller and sent them pictures, we will see what comes of it. After all of my googling I'm almost certain it's a Hobart Mega-Flex 650 RVS, reverse image search wasnt working because they were shipped baby puke green.

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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:49 pm
by Coldman
Here's a 650 and a 450, very similar.
Hobart-Mega-Flex-650-RVS-Welder-3359.jpg
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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:34 pm
by Unit562
Coldman wrote:Here's a 650 and a 450, very similar.
Hobart-Mega-Flex-650-RVS-Welder-3359.jpg
Hobart-Mega-Flex-450-Rvs-Welder-Hobart-2000.jpg
Its hard to see in the pictures, does the amp guage on the 450 go to 800 like it does on the 650? Judging by the width it looks like I've got myself a 450.

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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 6:21 pm
by Coldman
Here's a better pic cf the 450 showing the DC amp gauge scale to 800 amps. Or at least I can zoom in on the the pic prior to uploading and read 800amps clearly. If you PM me your email I will send you the original pic.
450.jpg
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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:23 pm
by Coldman

Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:52 pm
by VA-Sawyer
I spent too much time searching the net last night, trying to find info on that welder. No luck at all.
Looks like Coldman nailed it. You gotta love the helpful folks on this forum.

Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:07 pm
by Unit562
Coldman wrote:Here's a link to the pic

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= ... 6846288031
Thank you buddy! It's a 450 for sure. Time to get some wiring done in my shop and install this old girl!

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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:11 pm
by Unit562
VA-Sawyer wrote:I spent too much time searching the net last night, trying to find info on that welder. No luck at all.
Looks like Coldman nailed it. You gotta love the helpful folks on this forum.
You can't beat the amount of experiance that this forum has. I honestly should ask more questions here...

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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:29 pm
by Coldman
Here's a better attempt a gauge resolution:
450pic.jpg
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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:59 am
by Bill Beauregard
It sure looks Miller to me. There were Millers painted yellow marketed as Airco.
Is it single phase?

Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:04 pm
by snoeproe
Check for an ID tag on the back of the machine.
It should list the model and serial number. Should also list the primary and secondary amperage and voltage ratings. Will also tell you if it’s a single or three phase powered machine.

Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:32 pm
by Unit562
snoeproe wrote:Check for an ID tag on the back of the machine.
It should list the model and serial number. Should also list the primary and secondary amperage and voltage ratings. Will also tell you if it’s a single or three phase powered machine.
The tag was in the front of the machine, there are no tags anywhere else. It is the aforementioned Mega-Flex 450 by Hobart, reading the manual I found online the Mega-TIG function solidifies it.

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Re: Help identifying a machine

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:50 pm
by snoeproe
A quick search tells me that these are 3 phase only powered machines.