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Cfh when welding

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:04 pm
by Wildwelder96
What cfh is used for tig welding and mig welding steel or aluminum?

Re: Cfh when welding

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:10 pm
by Thatkid2diesel
Wildwelder96 wrote:What cfh is used for tig welding and mig welding steel or aluminum?
Tig welding I run 15-20cfh as I'm usually inside a garage. Mig welding I'm normally outside so if there is little to no wind I run 20cfh, but sometimes I do kick up to 25cfh and block the wind best I can with a piece of cardboard. I have found these levels work well for me.

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Re: Cfh when welding

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:23 pm
by LtBadd
Kind of a broad question, for recommended TIG flow settings go to the CK Worldwide Literature page and look at their form 116 Technical Guide.

For MIG Lincoln has some good resources.

Re: Cfh when welding

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:38 pm
by Spartan
TIG rule of thumb is 2.2x the cup size for gas flow in CFH. So a good starting point for a #7 cup with typical stick out would be right about 15 CFH (7 x 2.2).

Of course, this is only a rule of thumb. Adjust as needed based on stick out, environmental conditions, welding conditions, having only 100 psi of gas left in your tank on the weekend, etc. ;)

Also be aware that a lot of flowmeter readings, especially on the cheaper ones, are not completely accurate. Adjust as needed.

Re: Cfh when welding

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:50 pm
by Oscar
Spartan wrote:TIG rule of thumb is 2.2x the cup size for gas flow in CFH. So a good starting point for a #7 cup with typical stick out would be right about 15 CFH (7 x 2.2).

Of course, this is only a rule of thumb. Adjust as needed based on stick out, environmental conditions, welding conditions, having only 100 psi of gas left in your tank on the weekend, etc. ;)

Also be aware that a lot of flowmeter readings, especially on the cheaper ones, are not completely accurate. Adjust as needed.
Yup and once you get close to 10ish - 12ish you need close to 2.7 to 3x. The area of a circle does not increase proportionally to it's diameter. A lot of people are surprised when I tell them a #10 cup/nozzle has 56.3% more opening area than a #8 cup/nozzle!

Re: Cfh when welding

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:05 pm
by Spartan
Oscar wrote:
Spartan wrote:TIG rule of thumb is 2.2x the cup size for gas flow in CFH. So a good starting point for a #7 cup with typical stick out would be right about 15 CFH (7 x 2.2).

Of course, this is only a rule of thumb. Adjust as needed based on stick out, environmental conditions, welding conditions, having only 100 psi of gas left in your tank on the weekend, etc. ;)

Also be aware that a lot of flowmeter readings, especially on the cheaper ones, are not completely accurate. Adjust as needed.
Yup and once you get close to 10ish - 12ish you need close to 2.7 to 3x. The area of a circle does not increase proportionally to it's diameter. A lot of people are surprised when I tell them a #10 cup/nozzle has 56.3% more opening area than a #8 cup/nozzle!
Absolutely, and that same math certainly puts into perspective the differences between filler wire sizes when stepping up or down a size.