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moving big parts and plate
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:08 pm
by Jason_alex
Hello,
I was wondering how you guy move big plate and parts either flat or boxes? what type of material handling clamps and magnet you use?
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:35 pm
by MinnesotaDave
Tractor and engine hoist are my go-to.
On occasion I hoist from the ceiling from anchors I put up there when I remodeled the barn into a shop.
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:27 am
by weldin mike 27
Fork lift, overhead crane and jib crane with various gear including chains, magnet and plate dogs,
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=plat ... %3B197also these things,
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:16 pm
by Jason_alex
alright I didnt know if there was one you use more than the others... the magnets just seam like they cant lift much weight
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:47 pm
by GreinTime
Scrapyards use electromagnets almost exclusively
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Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:51 pm
by Jason_alex
how do those magnets work on alum or SS?
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:10 pm
by AKweldshop
Jason_alex wrote:how do those magnets work on alum or SS?
they don't.
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:14 pm
by GreinTime
You got me lol. That's why you have to unload your own aluminum at a different gate!
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Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:18 pm
by Jason_alex
HAHA that is true... I just was thinking inside a plant more so you dont have to worry about a battery staying charged or dropping a load.
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:03 am
by weldin mike 27
Hey
Our magnets we use in house have a "throw over" switch (for want of a better term) where you lower the mag down on to the plate, and throw over a handle to "turn on" the mag. No electricity needed. Like the strong hand mags and the mag earth clamps.
http://en-au.eriez.com/Products/Index/Liftingmagnets
also there are vacuum lifters available for non ferrous metals and steels that cannot tolerate any extra magnetic disturbance.
Mick
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:58 pm
by Bill Beauregard
I have a big "yellow wrench", it does everything but dentistry. A case 580K tractor/loader/backhoe is the most versatile tool in the world. When that won't work I call Sean, at 6'5" 300 lb, he can lift a big block Chevy engine.
moving big parts and plate
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:26 pm
by rsoby
well there are electric and non-electric magnets. I used to borrow a small one from an old tool & die guy that would lift 2+ tons, but my loader will only do 1000# - it was eas to attach, and one handle lifted it off, kinda like the mag vices on a grinder.
But there is also Plate Clamps and Plate Lifting dogs (
http://www.liftinggeardirect.co.uk/plate-clamp.html) . Most of the metal supply places around me use the Plate clamps. One place (Miller bridge builders) used them to maneuver 1" thick steel plates for bridge sections. They also solve the non-metallic issues
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:31 am
by weldin mike 27
We had those clamps for clamping from 75- 100mm and i have seen two used on an 18 tonne plate.... Solid.
Re: moving big parts and plate
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:53 pm
by tmeinc
Aluminum and some stainless steels are not magnetic, so for non magnetic materials pick-up magnets won't work. Permanent magnets are made from materials that hold their magnetism and act as indicated in an earlier post: they clamp on until a lever or something is actuated to push the material away from the permanenet magnet or visa versa.
Electromagnets (the pick up magnets used in junk yards and the like) are coils of wire around iron or similar material cores. When DC passes through the coils, a magnetic field sets up and the core becomes a magnet whose strength is proportional to the current and number of coils. When the DC is turned off, the magnetism mostly goes away, which is why some stuff still sticks but heavier stuff falls off the magnet. In serious production applications, the DC is not only turned off but replaced with AC, which kills the magnetism completely.
No matter what don't lift with a magnet over or near something (or someone) that might be harmed by sudden release of the suspended material