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Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw Co.

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:14 pm
by Oscar
So I had this blade and finally got around to sending it to WD Quinn for sharpening. I wish I had take a "before" shot, but none the less...It is a 14" Rage 2 36-tooth multi-purpose blade.

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Nicely laser-engraved with the customer name, with freshly "ground" surfaces on both sounds

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Only one damaged tooth, which was repaired with a new tooth, the one that has extra brazing around it

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You can see the grinding marks on the follower-tooth that they ground for proper clearance

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Only complaint? They use UPS for shipping, and the shipping cost more than the sharpening+tooth repair! :p

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I shipped via USPS so it only cost me $10 to ship to them, so overall $44 vs buying a new blade for $72+tax on Amazon, yea I'll keep sending it to them. I just have to convince them to send it back with my own pre-paid USPS shipping label!

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:27 am
by homeboy
Just realized how lucky I am. Just had a 66T 14in Evolution (1 replaced tooth) and 72T Diablo Steel Demon sharpened for just under C$50,00 inc 13%tx. About a 45min drive. These are commercial sharpeners with all the computerized automated toys for blades, milling tools etc. The Steel Demons, have 3 now, are much smoother cutting with a narrower kerf and last really well if used properly. The Evolution is a good blade also but noisier and rougher and is used for a backup only.

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:09 am
by Oscar
homeboy wrote:Just realized how lucky I am. Just had a 66T 14in Evolution (1 replaced tooth) and 72T Diablo Steel Demon sharpened for just under C$50,00 inc 13%tx. About a 45min drive. These are commercial sharpeners with all the computerized automated toys for blades, milling tools etc. The Steel Demons, have 3 now, are much smoother cutting with a narrower kerf and last really well if used properly. The Evolution is a good blade also but noisier and rougher and is used for a backup only.
Yup, lucky. Nothing like that 'round here. I plan to try out the Diable Cermet 90-tooth blade as it is rated for both mild and stainless steel, so it sounds pretty good and only costs less than $100USD.

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:12 pm
by homeboy
Don't know about the 90 but the 72 is a great blade. Mainly cutting 1/8 to 1/2" all profiles, occasionally thicker. A while back I was searching for a durable stainless blade without much luck but maybe they've improved. Initially I checked at a local cabinet shop to see where they got their sharpening done and lucked out. I do think that these resharpened blades cut and last better than original factory.

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:24 pm
by Oscar
homeboy wrote:Don't know about the 90 but the 72 is a great blade. Mainly cutting 1/8 to 1/2" all profiles, occasionally thicker. A while back I was searching for a durable stainless blade without much luck but maybe they've improved. Initially I checked at a local cabinet shop to see where they got their sharpening done and lucked out. I do think that these resharpened blades cut and last better than original factory.
I suppose it depends how well they are re-sharpened, but I do agree that there is great potential. In this close-up you can see a special grinding on the backside of the tip/tooth so that there is "all meat" behind the carbide tip, compared to stock where the tip overhangs a good bit. I would bet that allows it to absorb greater shock/stress than a stock configuration.

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Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:10 am
by homeboy
When you consider that a 36 tooth blade has tooth spacing of 1.22", a 72 tooth .61", a 90 tooth .49" you can see how much more work each tooth must do as the tooth count drops to maintain roughly equivalent cut speeds thus the extra reinforcement. The Diablo blade by comparison looks relatively delicate with it's narrower kerf yet I have never lost a tooth yet thru several sharpening cycles. Generally the information I found was the higher tooth counts are for thinner materials. I have a CMT probably about 100 count (numbers gone) that I tried for general cutting which dulled very quickly.

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:55 am
by Oscar
homeboy wrote:When you consider that a 36 tooth blade has tooth spacing of 1.22", a 72 tooth .61", a 90 tooth .49" you can see how much more work each tooth must do as the tooth count drops to maintain roughly equivalent cut speeds thus the extra reinforcement. The Diablo blade by comparison looks relatively delicate with it's narrower kerf yet I have never lost a tooth yet thru several sharpening cycles. Generally the information I found was the higher tooth counts are for thinner materials. I have a CMT probably about 100 count (numbers gone) that I tried for general cutting which dulled very quickly.

Thanks for the info. I don't cut thicker than ΒΌ", with the majority of stuff being 3/16" and under. According to the blade it has a good range of thicknesses that it is rated for, even with 90 teeth.

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If I need to cut thicker stuff, then I just fire up the bandsaw, or the plasma cutter. :)

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:08 pm
by homeboy
That blade will make a cut that looks like a mirror! Cutting on the flat is tough. When I cut miters in larger tubing, 2X4X1/8-3/16 usually, on the bottom cut where the blade is fairly flat I cut for 3-4 secs and raise and run the blade for the same to let it cool and repeat. Not sure if it's the answer but doesn't hurt. If / when you get a Diablo blade hopefully we will get a review. :P

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:51 pm
by Oscar
homeboy wrote:Cutting on the flat is tough. When I cut miters in larger tubing, 2X4X1/8-3/16 usually, on the bottom cut where the blade is fairly flat I cut for 3-4 secs and raise and run the blade for the same to let it cool and repeat.
I had pondered this before. In my mind I am seeing a pivot-able mount so that one can cut miters while still cutting corner-to-corner, so as to not cut on the flats. The cut-shape on the plane of the blade is a rectangle. The greater the miter the more the pivot would have to rotate in order to cut the rectangle from corner to corner, so there would be practical limits, but I think it can be done. Kinda like the saws that slide front-and-back. I just need to work out a couple of equations/numbers to see how it would play out.....

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:01 pm
by homeboy
:lol: ;)
Oscar wrote:
homeboy wrote:Cutting on the flat is tough. When I cut miters in larger tubing, 2X4X1/8-3/16 usually, on the bottom cut where the blade is fairly flat I cut for 3-4 secs and raise and run the blade for the same to let it cool and repeat.
I had pondered this before. In my mind I am seeing a pivot-able mount so that one can cut miters while still cutting corner-to-corner, so as to not cut on the flats. The cut-shape on the plane of the blade is a rectangle. The greater the miter the more the pivot would have to rotate in order to cut the rectangle from corner to corner, so there would be practical limits, but I think it can be done. Kinda like the saws that slide front-and-back. I just need to work out a couple of equations/numbers to see how it would play out.....
I have been a fervent, lifetime practitioner of the K.I.S.S. principal! Now my head hurts! :roll:

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:23 pm
by Oscar
homeboy wrote::lol: ;)
Oscar wrote:
homeboy wrote:Cutting on the flat is tough. When I cut miters in larger tubing, 2X4X1/8-3/16 usually, on the bottom cut where the blade is fairly flat I cut for 3-4 secs and raise and run the blade for the same to let it cool and repeat.
I had pondered this before. In my mind I am seeing a pivot-able mount so that one can cut miters while still cutting corner-to-corner, so as to not cut on the flats. The cut-shape on the plane of the blade is a rectangle. The greater the miter the more the pivot would have to rotate in order to cut the rectangle from corner to corner, so there would be practical limits, but I think it can be done. Kinda like the saws that slide front-and-back. I just need to work out a couple of equations/numbers to see how it would play out.....
I have been a fervent, lifetime practitioner of the K.I.S.S. principal! Now my head hurts! :roll:
Not me. I like to create problems just to solve them! lol

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:14 pm
by LtBadd
Oscar wrote:
Not me. I like to create problems just to solve them! lol
You should get married, you'd thrive.

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:42 pm
by Oscar
LtBadd wrote:
Oscar wrote:
Not me. I like to create problems just to solve them! lol
You should get married, you'd thrive.
No way! I'd be out on the streets ! :lol:

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:42 am
by BillE.Dee
LtBadd wrote:
Oscar wrote:

You should get married, you'd thrive.
THAT'S funny,,,Richard. I almost hate bringing this up on occasion, But WE could be making money on stock investment in face cream and BEER.

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw Co.

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:16 pm
by Oscar
Sending in more blades to get fixed sharpened.


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Accidentally dropped and chipped a couple teeth on the Tomax and the Evo multi-material blade that I already had sharpened (it is relegated only for chopping up oak firewood). The other Evo blade was just a spare so it's just getting sharpened.

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Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw Co.

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:07 pm
by Oscar
Got the blades back from W.D. Quinn. As before, excellent work.

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Two teeth that were replaced on the 72-tooth Tomax blade

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Nice job on the Evo multi-material blade

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Three sharpenings, three teeth replacement, one was 'hammered and tensioned'. $65 + ~$25 shipping.

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw Co.

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:31 pm
by Poland308
For people looking for someone to repair there blades, I would ask local machine shops. They often know who does good carbide repair work.

Re: Evolution Rage 2 carbide blade sharpened by WD Quinn Saw Co.

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:36 pm
by Oscar
Around here, nobody does this kind of work at this level of quality. So I guess it all depends on your location. I'm not so lucky.