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Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:36 am
by Millerismyname
I've been meaning to put up a review on the Evolution Rage 2 dry cut chop saw, so here it goes! I bought the saw from a local distributor threw my company so the price was way below the internet pricing you normally see. I'll start out by saying there's no other way I'll ever cut metal again aside from this type of saw. The cuts are clean, there's almost square close enough for the work I do and the fact that the cut piece is never hot is an enormous plus. The saw is well built, I have a couple complaints one being the threaded rod handle and the other being the actual fence adjustability. I was cuttin a 45 on 2" schedule 40 and the piece actually shot out of the fence and into the yard, it could have been and probably was user error but still I wasn't impressed. I haven't had any other issues other than pipe not being held down very effectively. So far the blade has held up through probably 100 cuts, some carbon some aluminum. I would deff buy this saw again, and I'll reiterate that there's no better way to cut metal it's just that much better than a abrasive saw.

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:16 pm
by AndersK
Is your base cast or pressed plate?
Mine is an early model (serial #32) with the cast base. I dont like the clamping either but I've heard people buying the ptessed one saying it has way too much flex.
Youre right about the blades, cuts clean, cold and FAST. Just bware of the chips, those are blue when they leave and hurts like...
I was doing a tin roof some years ago and was cutting about 8 sheets in one go with an evo blade. in my skill saw.
Legs were bleeding were the chips hit :D

And dont cut SS unless you have the blade for it.
I need to replace mine now ;)

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Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:10 pm
by Fly
I love mine.The only problem is cutter 2" or bigger alum.It cuts it fine the first
few cuts, but then the alum starts to ball up in the teeth of the blade.It is quicky
removed with some needle nose pliars.I have tried waxing the teeth, but it still
does it.Great on steel though.

Fly :D

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:25 pm
by Kevin_Holbrook
Fly wrote:I love mine.The only problem is cutter 2" or bigger alum.It cuts it fine the first
few cuts, but then the alum starts to ball up in the teeth of the blade.It is quicky
removed with some needle nose pliars.I have tried waxing the teeth, but it still
does it.Great on steel though.

Fly :D
try using this on the blade each cut

http://www.bandsawbladesdirect.com/band ... 7Aod6xgAwg

i use it on my table saw when cutting aluminum

Kevin

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:39 am
by soutthpaw
Kevin_Holbrook wrote:
Fly wrote:I love mine.The only problem is cutter 2" or bigger alum.It cuts it fine the first
few cuts, but then the alum starts to ball up in the teeth of the blade.It is quicky
removed with some needle nose pliars.I have tried waxing the teeth, but it still
does it.Great on steel though.

Fly :D
try using this on the blade each cut

http://www.bandsawbladesdirect.com/band ... 7Aod6xgAwg

i use it on my table saw when cutting aluminum

Kevin
I use that too. Works well. Also they make aluminum specific blades also. They have more teeth and less bite/heat on each cut. Not sure if blade design is different also

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:23 pm
by dzljon
Love mine also, I'm going to get a different blade just to see if it's better than the one that comes with the saw but still much better than the old abrasive saw

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:15 am
by soutthpaw
Fly wrote:I love mine.The only problem is cutter 2" or bigger alum.It cuts it fine the first
few cuts, but then the alum starts to ball up in the teeth of the blade.It is quicky
removed with some needle nose pliars.I have tried waxing the teeth, but it still
does it.Great on steel though.

Fly :D
This is where using a dedicated dry cut saw with aluminium blade excels. 1350rpm on a 14" 90+ teeth makes a huge difference

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:27 pm
by AndersK
Does anybody know if the steel blade can be used for stainless and how long it would last?
I know they have a special blade for ss but also seen somewhere they state it can cut ss.
The "Build" blade will degrade quickly after just a few cuts.

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Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:08 pm
by motox
i don't know about evolution but morse SS specific blades

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:03 pm
by soutthpaw
AndersK wrote:Does anybody know if the steel blade can be used for stainless and how long it would last?
I know they have a special blade for ss but also seen somewhere they state it can cut ss.
The "Build" blade will degrade quickly after just a few cuts.

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The stainless has more teeth. Not sure if it's a different carbide or tooth cut.

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:23 pm
by Blue Diver
What is the price per blade for a steel blade and are they readily sold anywhere? I'm not very familiar with these saws but used to cut a lot of thin alum with a standard dewalt chop saw and 80T blades. Would the Rage2 or Morse do that much better than a std wood chop saw? I'm assuming so but not sure how much larger the motors are.

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:14 pm
by AndersK
If you have a good quality wood saw it would do just fine with this kind of blades. It takes more torque to cut metal so bearings and motor need to be up to it. I run a 185 mm Evo blade in a Bosch circular saw and its great.

The thing with the Evo Rage2 saw and similar chop saws is that they they can cut a 130 mm diameter pipe where most wood mitre saws only can cut about 100 mm (I know there are some that handles larger sizes).

I buy blades from the UK since they are 50% less than here. Even including the freight its a better deal.
Prices for a 355 mm blade in GBP without VAT is 47 for the Build
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67 for the Steel
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96 for Stainless
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and 66 for Aluminum.
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Compared to a DeWalt Metallica saw the Rage is half price but the DeWalt machines are usually not as noisy and they have soft-start motors. I would expect the DeWalt to be of higher quality, you usually get what you pay for.

Re: Evolution Rage 2

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:43 pm
by Blue Diver
Appreciate the info.... now I got some more info to look into