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Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:22 am
by Wolfgang
As I started to work with steel tubing to build different tables and carts for my shop, I struggled with my buddies dry cut saw because I'm so used to a wood miter saw with stops. It took me forever to cut all the part that I wanted and to get them to the exact length I needed. I was really frustrated!
I researched and found that what I wanted in a metal miter saw was way more money then what I wanted to spend.
The only other option for me was to build my own.

I bought a new RIDGID 12" compound miter saw because of it's swivel base that I really liked,
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and a Dewalt 14" Multi Cutter Dry Cut Saw that had very good reviews.
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I took the Dewalt saw of it's base, and figured out the location of the saw kerf and mounting holes with a cardboard template, so I could transfer it to the RIDGID base.
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After I chopped off the compound mounting swivel section of the RIDGID base, I took my paper template to check the possibilities for my Dewalt saw on the RIDGID base in regard to cutting miters to the left and right.Image Image Image Image Image
I'm able to cut 45 degrees to the left and 22.5 to the right, because of the offset of the mounting base to the left as shown in the pictures.
I drafted all the moving parts in CAD and came up with a layout for the mounting plate to install the Dewalt saw on the RIDGID base
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The parts were cut on a friends plasma table. I cleaned the parts, drilled the holes to the correct dimensions, and welded it up.
As luck would have it, everything lined up nicely and I was able to put the two pieces together.
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The goal was to have this setup as a mobile cutting station with a compact design for a cart.
I've been working with CAD in my cabinet business for years, and I hardly build anything without developing it first on the screen.

As soon as the concept took shape in CAD, I started cutting and welding.
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The existing fence (for wood trim) didn't seem strong enough to withstand the potential abuse for the new application and was limited in its adjustability for referencing a perfect 90 and 45 degree cut.
Another resource with a water jet was able to cut some parts for me form 1/2" and 1/4" plate.
Here are some images of the parts. The big piece is the fence base plate, the next piece replaced the plastic inserts in the table, and the two little ones are the base plates for the fence posts.
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All the parts welded, bolted together, and mounted on the cart.
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The RIDGID swivel base has several miter presets, and they are dead on and lock in place very easy. Here are my left and right max miter cuts.
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It took me about 2 weeks working on it in the evenings after my day job to get to this point.
I had a blast figuring it out and seeing it come together and working the way it did.

To be able to cut lengths repetitively with high accuracy and efficiency, I needed stops on both sides, sliding on removable rails and easily stored on the cart if not in use.

Here are the receiving sleeves, 2x2,welded to the cart, under the saw,
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and with one of the sliding rails (1.75 x1.75) in place, locked by a pin.
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When not in use, the sliding rails are stored on the back side of the cart, held in place by a safety pin. The setup is very simple and quick.
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Here is a roller support, and the other supports, that also work as stops by turning them 90 degrees.
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I needed something to catch the metal shavings and to reduce the mess behind the saW.
Here is my collection box, mounted to the backside of the saw, easy to clean.
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Some images with the slide rails and supports tucked away for a small footprint.
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I got some strong hand drill press clamps last week to hold my tubing against the fence and in place.
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These things are really slick!!!!

I added some shelves and slots for saw blades the last two days to complete the setup.
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I'm a happy camper now!!!!! :D

Thoughts and comments welcome!

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:14 am
by weldin mike 27
That has to be one of the most impressive adaptions I've seen. What did the cost come in and besides the fun you had, how would it compare to a cold cut (coolant) saw?

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:28 am
by rick9345
WOW!!!!!!!!

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:08 am
by Wolfgang
weldin mike 27 wrote:That has to be one of the most impressive adaptions I've seen. What did the cost come in and besides the fun you had, how would it compare to a cold cut (coolant) saw?
Total cost for saws, tooling, materials, everything else, close to two grand plus 30 hours for thinking and building.
I've never had a cold cut saw, so I can't make a comparison, but someone else here may have the experience and can chime in.

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:35 am
by xwrench
Now you've gone and voided your warranty :lol:
Seriously, though, nice work. That's awesome!
Cheers.
-Eldon

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:42 pm
by motox
very impressive build
great job you just lifted the bar!
craig

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:45 pm
by Wolfgang
Thanks guys, very kind of you!

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:19 am
by weldin mike 27
A cold saw with coolant is a common animal here in Australia, but is pretty dear. Around 4or5 grand new. The main thing is they are barely limited to thickness of material. Except very thick solid materials. That is the domain of the power hacksaw or band saw.

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:58 pm
by DennisZ
Wow what an awesome project! Just one question, why didn't you use the ridgid saw?

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:24 am
by Rick_H
Very nice build....I'm also a CAD junky, 22 years expierence in AutoCAD and Inventor. It will help you find those short comings before going to metal.

Again, top notch job!

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:45 pm
by Wolfgang
DennisZ wrote:Wow what an awesome project! Just one question, why didn't you use the ridgid saw?
The rpm's are too high for the metal cutting blades I wanted to use.
1,800 rpm is the fastest you can go to use these.

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:26 pm
by Bobby Sixguns
Very cool project.

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:19 pm
by culveres
Does anyone have experience with the Evolution dry saws?

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:02 pm
by bryanwi
I have a several years old evolution hand circular metal cutting saw (not a cutoff saw, more like skilsaw for metal)
It's OK, but would bog down on things like 1" aluminum plate.
I now have a steelmax version of the same idea - it can cut 1" aluminum plate reasonably well.
So I prefer the steelmax entries.
(But evolution may have changed.)

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:01 am
by LWHiway
Off site pic hosting like this kills a nice thread.

It's now totally useless.

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:23 pm
by Martyalot
Yep, I’d love to see the pics, but apparently it’s a no go.

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 10:45 am
by JayWal
Martyalot wrote:Yep, I’d love to see the pics, but apparently it’s a no go.
Same here. Even just a couple pics to see what’s what would be nice I have no idea what the guys up top are seeing.

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:20 am
by Wolfgang
All the pics of this project are back for all who want to see!

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:01 am
by LtBadd
Wolfgang wrote:All the pics of this project are back for all who want to see!
Thanks wolfgang! You certainly held nothing back on this project ;)

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:58 pm
by tungstendipper
culveres wrote:Does anyone have experience with the Evolution dry saws?
I do. What's your question?

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:49 pm
by Wolfgang
I've cut a lot of tubing with this homemade setup over the last three and a half years, and I couldn't be happier!
It's still as accurate as it was the first day!

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:51 pm
by Radishfever
Your work is fantastic. Also saw your Just another workbench build. Drool worthy work. Hope you post more builds.


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Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:08 pm
by Wolfgang
Radishfever wrote:Your work is fantastic. Also saw your Just another workbench build. Drool worthy work. Hope you post more builds.


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Thanks for your kind feedback! :)

Re: Home made dry cut miter saw (lots of pics)

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:39 pm
by WirelessG
Nice.