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Innersheild?????

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:16 pm
by cheezy
I am looking for tips on testing with Innersheild wire 233 3g and 4g positions.I am haveing trouble mainly with draging pushing seems to work better but doesn't feel right :roll: :?: any tips are appreciated

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:17 pm
by Sarge
Welcome. Are you a welder? Just checkin, with your signature and all.

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:10 am
by 4m welder
shipyard welding?

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:14 pm
by cheezy
Yes i am a welder been an ironworker for 24 years and trying to broaden my welding techniques.I haven't welded with wire in probably 15 years.My main problem is that I weld good for about 4 inches then it just turns to sh#$ and falls.I've tried dragging and pushing the push feels and looks better but told that I am suppose to drag.Any opinions are appreciated.What I am really trying to do is move into a different field of work as the fact that there isn't much Union Ironwork out there and I am needing to move on.Plus I'm about tired of wearing myself out climbing around on the iron.

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:14 pm
by 4m welder
gun angle? travel speed...no gas coverage, easy fix if it's gas shielded..good luck, you'll work it out

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:49 am
by Otto Nobedder
I always push 3&4g, and 3&4f positions. If you drag 4g, the heat builds up at the back of the puddle after a few inches and either drips out or leaves a bigass grape.

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:41 pm
by cheezy
Thanks for the tip. I guess I'll just keep plugging away at it. Now I remember why I always hated wire!!!

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:16 am
by rickbreezy
I always had trouble with fluxcore as well. pushing uphill can be difficult without correct wire settings, gun angle, ect.

I feel that a good uphill(3g) method is the upside down triangle method. You can see this here. http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/ver ... nique.html

(this is for mig i know but the concept is very similer)

4g i feel is better to push, this seems to get more penetration, which a weld inspecter will be looking for.

Dragging i feel is more usable in a shop enviornment, where an inspection might be less prone and speed is priority.

best of luck,

-Rick

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:10 pm
by cheezy
thanks for the tips im going to try that upsidedown trick wanting to test on this thursday welds are looking pretty good the instructor if thats what you want to call him says i am doing good and should pass i dont know i think i am alot pickyer than he is pretty rough on myself ya know

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:38 pm
by Otto Nobedder
We like to call ourselves craftsmen, so we are usually our own worst critics.

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:52 pm
by cheezy
Just an update-Welding is looking a whole lot better found my comfort zone still dont feel ready to test yet but no hurry as there aint any work around-FOUND THE MAIN PROBLEM WAS I AM OFFICIALLY OLD AND HAVE BOUGHT MY FIRST CHEATER LENS LOL

Re: Innersheild?????

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:07 pm
by Otto Nobedder
LOL, cheezy,

I almost busted a plate test a few years ago. That's when I discovered I needed glasses! :D

It makes a hell of a difference when you can see what you're doing!

Steve