I have an Esab Lts 161 inverter... In the description, it states that it can run 6010 (80 volts OCV, notably).
I bought a one pound of 3/32 Blue Demon 6010—as a test—, used them, and they were excellent...
So I decided to buy a 5 pounds box of the «same» rods; ouuuuuuuh! Not working well... Even with a short arc, they tend to choke every inch or so... I tried with higher amperage (even if it was hot enough) and same, same...
I didn't buy the 5 pounds box from the same place; and I see on the box 2 logos: Blue Demon and Weldmark... 3/32 rods.
Am I dealing with a bad patch? Crappy rods?
Thanks for your input guys...
I don’t think your machine will run 6010 reliably. Most small inverters won’t. I know that it is advertised that is will run them, but it lacks the DIG control and Hot Start feature that most decent stick boxes have for 6010.
I’d suggest switching to 6011 or 6013 rods and stop futzing about. Those will run perfectly in any diameter all day long on your box.
I’d suggest switching to 6011 or 6013 rods and stop futzing about. Those will run perfectly in any diameter all day long on your box.
try the old wet rod trick. wet a rod, let it dry out on the bench and then run it. this is because moisture in the cellulose is a major part of the rods action. sometimes they can be to dry and not have enough action to keep them lit.
also double check you didn't get the leads around the wrong way.
also double check you didn't get the leads around the wrong way.
tweak it until it breaks
Ok, I'll try that. And I am running DC+, no worry... As far as 6010 pretension for inverter welder, I would say this: when Yeswelder says that their machine can run 6010, I know it is fake news... When Esab tells their costumer that a certain machine runs 6010, I am more incline to believe it... Plus the fact that I've seen vids where welders used that same welder to run 6010 rods, like this one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLD5QzfSr8otweake wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:31 pm try the old wet rod trick. wet a rod, let it dry out on the bench and then run it. this is because moisture in the cellulose is a major part of the rods action. sometimes they can be to dry and not have enough action to keep them lit.
also double check you didn't get the leads around the wrong way.
Futzing about, yeah...cj737 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:59 am I don’t think your machine will run 6010 reliably. Most small inverters won’t. I know that it is advertised that is will run them, but it lacks the DIG control and Hot Start feature that most decent stick boxes have for 6010.
I’d suggest switching to 6011 or 6013 rods and stop futzing about. Those will run perfectly in any diameter all day long on your box.
No, I won't run 6013... but you can if you want. I run 6011 and 7018 yes...
The Esab 161lts paved to way to the Rogue 180; these small inverter CAN run 6010... Check this one at 1:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLD5QzfSr8o with 5p+, if you do not believe ESAB descriptions to be true...
I tried them with a bigger machine; Miller Idealarc 250 HF... And it worked fine. I think that brand of rods needs higher voltage (CCV) to run. And I bought a new machine; Razorweld Razorarc 200 PFC... and it can run the rod! Not perfect, but if I maintain a close arc, I can run it without choking...
So are you attributing it the machine not being well-suited to 6010 rods? Does your new box have a setting for DIG/arc force?Rodbelan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:57 amI tried them with a bigger machine; Miller Idealarc 250 HF... And it worked fine. I think that brand of rods needs higher voltage (CCV) to run. And I bought a new machine; Razorweld Razorarc 200 PFC... and it can run the rod! Not perfect, but if I maintain a close arc, I can run it without choking...
The new machine can run at higher voltage... Not all 6010 need really high voltage to run (5p+ for exemple, comparing to straight red 6010 rods). So, a machine that can run 6010 doesn't mean it can run all of themcj737 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:13 pmSo are you attributing it the machine not being well-suited to 6010 rods? Does your new box have a setting for DIG/arc force?Rodbelan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:57 amI tried them with a bigger machine; Miller Idealarc 250 HF... And it worked fine. I think that brand of rods needs higher voltage (CCV) to run. And I bought a new machine; Razorweld Razorarc 200 PFC... and it can run the rod! Not perfect, but if I maintain a close arc, I can run it without choking...