What causes this light blue ribbon in the weld?
Anyone ever seen this before?
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Here is the finished product and the machine settings for comparison
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I'd say a wee bit of atmosphrere got in there before it chilled.
A gust of wind, a split-second of long-arc, or a bit of your rod that lost a chip of flux before it burned.
Or an impurity on the flux itself... a drop of oil, water, or something, that, for just a moment, distrupted the flux.
I've seen it before, but I never though a thing about it, until now... If a wire brush makes it go away, the weld was not harmed.
Edit: on a second look, perhaps the slag cracked across the weld at that point, admitting air while the weld was still very hot, suggesting a rather thin slag development, from minimal flux on the rod. What brand are the rods? (Again, no harm done.)
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A gust of wind, a split-second of long-arc, or a bit of your rod that lost a chip of flux before it burned.
Or an impurity on the flux itself... a drop of oil, water, or something, that, for just a moment, distrupted the flux.
I've seen it before, but I never though a thing about it, until now... If a wire brush makes it go away, the weld was not harmed.
Edit: on a second look, perhaps the slag cracked across the weld at that point, admitting air while the weld was still very hot, suggesting a rather thin slag development, from minimal flux on the rod. What brand are the rods? (Again, no harm done.)
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That was Lincoln Excaliber 7018 H4R rod at 3/32"
I was wondering the same thing about the thickness of the material gauge in regards to the stick... Hummmm....
I know that this is light stuff BUT I was practicing for the job I had to do that weekend, re-weld up some 1/8" diamond plate in a trailer deck on an auto hauler.
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I was wondering the same thing about the thickness of the material gauge in regards to the stick... Hummmm....
I know that this is light stuff BUT I was practicing for the job I had to do that weekend, re-weld up some 1/8" diamond plate in a trailer deck on an auto hauler.
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Maybe someone else can respond with better advice but I've tried to weld a lot of 1/8" with 3/32 6011 and even at less than 50 amps I was burning holes through it, unless I moved REALLy fast...faster than I wanted to. But any lower amperage and I couldnt maintain an arc. I would really like to try some 5/64 or even 1/16 and see if that works better.
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Where do you find rod in diameters less than 3 / 32 " ?
I wouldn't mind tinkering around with it
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I wouldn't mind tinkering around with it
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Hey Adam,
You have a great bead there.
No need for smaller rod.
No worry about the ribbon.
Just a flux inconsistency.
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You have a great bead there.
No need for smaller rod.
No worry about the ribbon.
Just a flux inconsistency.
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Hardware stores around me carry the small rods.Adam Mc Laughlin wrote:Where do you find rod in diameters less than 3 / 32 " ?
I wouldn't mind tinkering around with it
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"Tinkering around" pretty much says it - anything small enough for the little rods is a perfect candidate for a little wire feed
I've used them, they work fine - but are a pain in the neck in my opinion
If you try the little ones, they are wiggly, so I grab the rod end with my left hand and strike them with my left hand - otherwise the end whips around.
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