[mbmalone]

I can't see squat, so I've been thinking about this, but it might sound dumb.

What about welding with some of those flip-up type goggles, if I can find some with a #10 lens, while also using an pipeliner hood, but with only a clear safety lens installed?

Wouldn't that keep the light out of my eyes, because a dark shirt over my head is giving me heatstroke?

[AKweldshop]

Wow,
You must be desperate to use goggles, with a clear lens helmet.

Look at this pic here.


Just stack three clear lens in one of these helmets, than try your goggles.

Those flip up lens pipeliners are SO $%#& heavy!!!!

I couldn't stand to have on an my head all day.

Are you sure you cant just change the angle your coming in at, maybe turn your head a little.

I don't have this problem very often.

[Superiorwelding]

While this could be done for a short period of time I cannot recommend this for a long period of time. To my knowledge the clear lens' do not offer uv protection therefore your face would be exposed to burns. Also the light would in theory reflect around the helmet causing your whole head to be exposed. If you are conserned about the heat and want to protect from the light I would recommend either a leather or cloth flap attached to your helmet or ultimately a fresh air hood like a Miller Titanium. Now hear me out...they are expensive but if you are doing this on a daily basis and are getting to hot this will fix both problems. Just a thought.
-Jonathan

[MinnesotaDave]

Pipeline pancake helmet will fix your outdoor problem.
Sand the wood area to fit your face and no light gets in.

Here's one place with high recommendations.

http://www.wendyspancakes.net/

[MinnesotaDave]

Also this one:
the Arc Shield 513

[Braehill]

Guys,
We are talking about a guy who can only afford less than $200 for a welder.

Len

[Superiorwelding]

Len,
Good point but I did want to share options. With that said I would go with the shirt or leather on the back of head or change positions where he is welding. Another option is to build a Hoosier pole.
-Jonathan

[mbmalone]

I appreciate all the replies. @MinnesotaDave That's one cool ass welding helmet.
I forgot about the UV rays coming through the clear faceplate, cooking my face.

Back to a regular hood and some clear lens doggles to block out all the surrounding reflected light. Maybe the hood just doesn't fit my head properly, idk? Too bad I don't have more hair to block the light. My welding hood is a Kobalt from LWS.

[mbmalone]

I'm a Virgo, so my birthday will soon be here. Just sayin' ....

Also this one:
the Arc Shield 513

[MinnesotaDave]

Another option is to build a Hoosier pole.
-Jonathan

Even better - shade is a good thing

[mbmalone]

I still want to look cool while I'm welding, come on .... that's embarrassing.

I've been using a big sheet of some kind of coated strofoam insulation of some sort from homedepot which I have bungeed to the side of a ladder. I hope that crap doesn't catch on fire. I was reading the fine print and it said must be installed with a fire wall anyway, it was cheaper than wood, but it's been flapping like crazy in the wind, tips the whole ladder over. I fixed that problem, got the water bucket on a chain holding it down. If it catches on fire behind me, I don't want to have to go looking for the water bucket. I'm going to replace it when it snaps in half. I had an umbrella, but it kept tipping over. Before that, I had this piece of EMT shooting off the top of the ladder. I had an eye bolt and a bent emt clamp which I was running it through and I slid a bag buddy down the EMT and had a bunch of bungee's coming off it. It was working until the sun moved, haven't figured how to fix that yet? I need some fresh ideas. I think the light is coming in the sides of my hood.

Maybe a curtain rod with one of those little shorty curtains, just low enough that have to dip my head under to weld. I could do the arab thing, little dress over my head like a little towel in the back, but it get hungup when I flip the hood.

Pipeline pancake helmet will fix your outdoor problem.

[MinnesotaDave]

I still want to look cool while I'm welding, come on .... that's embarrassing.

Pipeline pancake helmet will fix your outdoor problem.

Pancake lids are embarrassing? Don't say that very loud around a bunch of pipeliners...

[mbmalone]

I didn't say they were sissy's, but I don't think they wear those at home around normal people who might not understand those kooky looking things. I would use one in the backyard, they probably work real good. The collapsible movie projector screen from the goodwill idea sort of backfired on me.

I never saw Jody wearing a Pancake ..............

Pancake lids are embarrassing? Don't say that very loud around a bunch of pipeliners...

[79jasper]

I can't use a 10 in the first place.
I like my cheapo $40 northern tool auto darkening hood.
Be easy to fix the sunlight coming in from the back with an old shirt.
You said you have some vision problem. That plus a 10 filter, no wander you're having problems. Lol [ASTONISHED FACE]

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[GlenC]

What about a cooling towel for hard-hats?


http://www.ergodyne.com/products/pages/ ... 14&PRD=298

[mbmalone]

I think the light is mostly coming in on both sides of the hood. I am thinking of finding some thin dark material that can attach across the back of the hood, side to side. Something thin enough that it will just bunch on my neck when I lift the hood, without getting in the way. Maybe just use two little squares of velcro to attach it. If I had a high dollar Miller helmet, I probably wouldn't be having this problem.

What about a cooling towel for hard-hats?

[mbmalone]

A new idea came to me last night, while I slept. It sounds stupid, but will probably work real good. I don't know how to explain it, but it begins with an elcheapo external aluminum framed boyscout backpack, with all the bags taken off. With a couple of light weight extensions added, coming off the top it would seem you could place a piece of black cloth in sort of a number 7 shape between the supports behind your back and over your head. It would block the sun both over your head and behind your back. Just turn your back to the sun when bending over to weld. You can't simply wear a giant sombrero and still be able to raise and lower a welding hood. It might not work so well if working at heights on a bridge, but it also might catch a little wind and cool the back of your neck

I'll probably see "the personal sun shade" for sale on tv next week for $19.95, never fails!

Even better - shade is a good thing

[79jasper]

Don't anything would ever happen, but I wouldn't be adding any metal to my body.
Those leather flaps you add on are probably the best option.
Next to a picnic table umbrella.

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[mbmalone]

I tried the picnic umbrella thing, but it kept blowing over.
I tied it down and kept tripping on the lines, just about fell on my face.

I also thought, because everybody likes pancakes, to attach a piece of cardboard to the back of the hood somehow (epoxy painted). It doesn't have to be very big. I just want to cast a small shadow over the back and top of the hood.

So far those leather flaps do sound the best, but I'm still working on it. I bet they work real good in the winter when the wind is blowing, but around here, my glasses are going to fog. That was also the problem with adding makeshift opaque side shields to the interior of the view plate, inside the hood. I might have to go back to that original idea. Maybe something like a welding cap with some additional material added to the sides of the cap to act as side shields inside the hood. Maybe I just need some soft dark cloth that velcos to the plastic hood headgear and hangs down a few inches on both sides, IDK?

Don't anything would ever happen, but I wouldn't be adding any metal to my body.
Those leather flaps you add on are probably the best option.
Next to a picnic table umbrella.

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