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Can't see where I'm going

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:56 am
by shuttersparks
Hello. I did a search and couldn't find anything on this problem. This may not have a solution, but I'm throwing it out here in case I'm missing something.

Let's say I'm doing a butt weld of thin material with no bevel, no gap, or for an example, I'm attempting to follow a design on a flat plate drawn with a welding pencil. If I'm running 6011, for example, there's enough light ahead of my path that I can see where I'm going. But with 6013 or 7018, the rod is dragging or almost dragging, the light from the arc is mostly trapped, and the rod casts a shadow in the direction of travel. I can't see where I'm going. The path ahead is completely black.

If there's a bevel or edge, I can feel it with the electrode. But on a flat plate, there's nothing, and my path wanders off in a nice straight line away from the joint or line. :lol:

Maybe I need a super bright light to shine on the workpiece. I don't know. Any ideas?

Re: Can't see where I'm going

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 7:38 am
by cj737
Any possibility of clamping a straight edge along side to act as a guide? I have a 1/2"x2" piece of brass bar stock that I use for this and Oxy/Ac cutting.

Re: Can't see where I'm going

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 12:37 pm
by shuttersparks
cj737 wrote:Any possibility of clamping a straight edge along side to act as a guide? I have a 1/2"x2" piece of brass bar stock that I use for this and Oxy/Ac cutting.
That idea occurred to me, although I haven't thought through exactly how to do it. The last time this happened I considered placing a nice straight red brick alongside the joint. I should have tried it.

But, the straightedge idea doesn't work for following random patterns, like Jody's video on a Valentine's Day heart. I don't have the artist gene and can't freehand stuff like that. :(

Re: Can't see where I'm going

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:26 pm
by Demented
Try using a scribe and tracing your drawn out design to get a sharp edge. I always found that helped get a reflection to follow designs in low light situations.

Re: Can't see where I'm going

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:05 pm
by shuttersparks
Demented wrote:Try using a scribe and tracing your drawn out design to get a sharp edge. I always found that helped get a reflection to follow designs in low light situations.
Hmm, that's an idea. I'll try that. It might be more visible than a silver pencil. I have a nice tungsten carbide scribe that cuts a line in steel easily. Thanks for the idea.

Maybe I could mount a halogen floodlight to the stinger to serve as headlights. :lol:

My problem seems so silly because I have a ridiculously bright light source in my hand but it doesn't help me.

Re: Can't see where I'm going

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:16 am
by tweake
shuttersparks wrote: Maybe I could mount a halogen floodlight to the stinger to serve as headlights. :lol:
thats not a bad idea. i did that today. welding at 45 amp and not being able to see much due to me shadowing the part.
rigged up a light and that helped a lot.

Re: Can't see where I'm going

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:16 pm
by Demented
The halogen light definitely does work too. I used to do that when I started out on stick and only had an overhead 40w bulb in the garage.

Re: Can't see where I'm going

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 3:46 pm
by shuttersparks
Thanks, everyone, for your ideas and experiences.

I have a 6,000 lumen lamp on order. We'll see how that works, literally.