Hi, guys. I moved over here to keep things on topic. My topic is on stick welding. I have a buzz box, but, no power to run it. I may have to sell it and get an alternative. Absolutely no 220 in the building. The road I'm taking now is welder/generator. I was surfing the web and found a web site that makes a "Welding generator". ??? It's an alternator that has a control panel and hook ups for a stinger, but, no gas engine. I originally wanted to make one, but, that's on hold. It sounds easier than it looks.
Bottom line, Durostar has a unit that's a welder and a generator. 210 amp max output! I'm not sure, but that's got to be DC. Any way, DC+ is a deeper weld, and that will work for me. As for now, I'm waiting for a call back on the welding generator.
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Hi, Check out this site
www.zena.net
Its a welding system that works off any motor above a given hp. Cars, ride on mowers, you tell them what youve got and they supply the appropriate
www.zena.net
Its a welding system that works off any motor above a given hp. Cars, ride on mowers, you tell them what youve got and they supply the appropriate
It is critical that the generator's electronics will work with a welder. Some won't - I don't know the details but someone on the forum can fill you in.
Most Honda generators work well. My 13K generator runs a welder just fine.
Everlast also sells generators but I don't have experience with them. Since they sell welders the generators may work together. A call to Everlast would clear it up.
Most Honda generators work well. My 13K generator runs a welder just fine.
Everlast also sells generators but I don't have experience with them. Since they sell welders the generators may work together. A call to Everlast would clear it up.
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Craig,
Are you in the U.S? Does your home have a modern circuit-breaker box? Just because you have no 220v outlets doesn't mean you don't have 220 available. It could be as simple as having a 2-pole breaker installed to add a 220v outlet.
Come to think of it, the old farmhouse I grew up in, 16 miles more remote than the place everyone called "the middle of nowhere" had a primitive 100A fusebox, yet we had 220 available.
Steve
Are you in the U.S? Does your home have a modern circuit-breaker box? Just because you have no 220v outlets doesn't mean you don't have 220 available. It could be as simple as having a 2-pole breaker installed to add a 220v outlet.
Come to think of it, the old farmhouse I grew up in, 16 miles more remote than the place everyone called "the middle of nowhere" had a primitive 100A fusebox, yet we had 220 available.
Steve
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What about a stove or dryer in your building? Many of those run on 220.
Like Steve said, it's pretty easy to add a 220 breaker, but if you are in an apartment building, management may not let you.. Regardless, there should be 220 or 3 phase coming into the building somewhere.
Steve (the other Steve)
Like Steve said, it's pretty easy to add a 220 breaker, but if you are in an apartment building, management may not let you.. Regardless, there should be 220 or 3 phase coming into the building somewhere.
Steve (the other Steve)
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I guess I'll start adding an initial, to avoid confusion. (Unless our last names start with the same letter. 
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Steve S.
)Steve S.
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You don't have to do that, after all, you were here first.....I'll go by OS (Other Steve)
(O.T. if anyone was wondering where the name "delraydella" comes from,I work in a part of Detroit called Delray and Della was my German Shepard dog. When I was trying to think of a screen name, there were already about 400 million "Steves" with some number before or after and I wanted to stand out from the rest of them, so I looked at my dog and a name was born. We now return to your regularly scheduled topic....)
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(O.T. if anyone was wondering where the name "delraydella" comes from,I work in a part of Detroit called Delray and Della was my German Shepard dog. When I was trying to think of a screen name, there were already about 400 million "Steves" with some number before or after and I wanted to stand out from the rest of them, so I looked at my dog and a name was born. We now return to your regularly scheduled topic....)
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There's at least one other "Steve" who participates here, so we could just do both?
BTW, I was enjoying trying to work out "delraydella", damn it!
Originality is nice in user names. I use the first seven characters of my email address as my user name lots of places, and have never had to put an "01" at the end of it.
Steve S.
BTW, I was enjoying trying to work out "delraydella", damn it!
Originality is nice in user names. I use the first seven characters of my email address as my user name lots of places, and have never had to put an "01" at the end of it.Steve S.
Weldin Mike, I've checked out Zena and spoke to the guy that sells them. Very innovative. He told me how the company works and what they did to get it started. I can get a 250 amp unit for $1600. Way out of my reach. Was I going to make a home made welder or a generator? I've decided to make a generator.
All I need is a generator motor to power my buzz box. I found one on line for about $500. Not too bad. 360 lbs! He said you need at least 30 hp to run it. This is a huge unit. Like an idiot, it took me awhile to realize that I used to repair VW engines. I found a VW 1600cc for about 650 bucks. The good thing is, I have a generator to power other equipment I have. I use my mig to weld up a trailer, mount the engine and gen motor to a pulley system(making sure the ratio is correct). Wire the generator to an electrical panel with a 220v/50 amp breaker. I will add a 220v/30 amp and a couple of 120v outlets to power other stuff. This is gonna be a killer project. I'm gonna have to put it on the back burner for a while. The wife wants me to build her a wine buffet, first.
I can also add an electrical clutch pulley to disengage the generator when I'm not welding.
All I need is a generator motor to power my buzz box. I found one on line for about $500. Not too bad. 360 lbs! He said you need at least 30 hp to run it. This is a huge unit. Like an idiot, it took me awhile to realize that I used to repair VW engines. I found a VW 1600cc for about 650 bucks. The good thing is, I have a generator to power other equipment I have. I use my mig to weld up a trailer, mount the engine and gen motor to a pulley system(making sure the ratio is correct). Wire the generator to an electrical panel with a 220v/50 amp breaker. I will add a 220v/30 amp and a couple of 120v outlets to power other stuff. This is gonna be a killer project. I'm gonna have to put it on the back burner for a while. The wife wants me to build her a wine buffet, first.
I can also add an electrical clutch pulley to disengage the generator when I'm not welding.
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Hey,
Sorry mate i forgot you were plannning. And i got all fuzzy when i saw the pic of the ride on mower with a welder underneath. lol. I hope you find what you are after.
PS i have a mate who has a bug fetish (shudder). PPS Is there a way to steal the zena idea for just a gen and use you car?
Mick
Sorry mate i forgot you were plannning. And i got all fuzzy when i saw the pic of the ride on mower with a welder underneath. lol. I hope you find what you are after.
PS i have a mate who has a bug fetish (shudder). PPS Is there a way to steal the zena idea for just a gen and use you car?
Mick
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Mick,
Much of www.zena.net stuff is actually meant to be run by your car or truck.
I'd looked at them myself, but had forgotten about them until it was posted here... The bookmark was on my desktop computer, which I no longer use.
Steve S.
Much of www.zena.net stuff is actually meant to be run by your car or truck.
I'd looked at them myself, but had forgotten about them until it was posted here... The bookmark was on my desktop computer, which I no longer use.
Steve S.
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Craig,
Sounds like you have a good plan. The VW is about the simplest powerplant to set up in that power range, with no computer to wire, and no radiator to plumb. Too bad the VW collector market has made them pricy for used engines.
If you are willing to plumb up a cooling system, an old Subaru engine makes an excellent powerplant, and can be found for less money. Newer Subarus can be converted to carburation and the computer eliminated, too, but you'd be getting close to that VW price again.
Steve S.
Sounds like you have a good plan. The VW is about the simplest powerplant to set up in that power range, with no computer to wire, and no radiator to plumb. Too bad the VW collector market has made them pricy for used engines.
If you are willing to plumb up a cooling system, an old Subaru engine makes an excellent powerplant, and can be found for less money. Newer Subarus can be converted to carburation and the computer eliminated, too, but you'd be getting close to that VW price again.
Steve S.
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Hey,
I knew what the idea of the zena line of products was but old mate just wants the gennie so i wondered if there was a system like that, ie , simple that can supply power not just welding current. Thats what i meant. Im so spoilt here is Aus. 240 staight out of the tap so to speak.
Mick
I knew what the idea of the zena line of products was but old mate just wants the gennie so i wondered if there was a system like that, ie , simple that can supply power not just welding current. Thats what i meant. Im so spoilt here is Aus. 240 staight out of the tap so to speak.
Mick
Yes, there is a way. IF....you have a car alternator that puts out 200+ amps. It then needs to be converted to DC. That can be done with a rectifier. No problem with the battery, 'cause the voltage regulator will control that. One draw back. Since the welder is basically your car or truck, your limited on where you can go. The set up has the stinger whip and grounding cable coming, usually, out the front of your truck. It does work. It takes alittle knowledge to wire everything up correctly. You have to use a special stinger with a control knob on it. I'm gonna search the web and see if I can find one.
Visit this site. It might proof useful for you.
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