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I was wondering if anybody in the forum with Lincoln SW Tig 200 is using an aftermarket torch with a switch. I wanted to get a 26 series torch with a switch for the SW Tig 200 I just ordered. The Lincoln $400 switch is a little bit too much for me. Thank you all in advance
2 things: a 26 is a LARGE TORCH physically. You’d probably prefer a 17. It will support your machine’s limits happily.
Check out Tigcontrol.com. Variable amperage push button. I have begun using them on my MultiMatic and Dynasty and am really liking them.
Check out Tigcontrol.com. Variable amperage push button. I have begun using them on my MultiMatic and Dynasty and am really liking them.
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Thanks, just sent Tigcontrol.com info request for model that fits my SW 200. For the size of the torch, I read in many reviews and forums that the 17 gets really hot and recommended going bigger that's why I was thinking about size 26 torch. Thanks.
A 17 will get hot with high amps and prolonged duty. But, it’s far more manageable than a 26. If you want the best of both worlds, a water-cooled 20 is a treat. You’ll need a water cooler, but it makes life simply pleasurable.
A 26 torch cable and torch are like having a Stick stinger in your hand and wrapping those leads around your arm and shoulder. Heavy, cumbersome and a PITA. I’ve got a 26 I use only in rare circumstances of needing to weld seriously thick ally.
A 26 torch cable and torch are like having a Stick stinger in your hand and wrapping those leads around your arm and shoulder. Heavy, cumbersome and a PITA. I’ve got a 26 I use only in rare circumstances of needing to weld seriously thick ally.
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X2!!! Get a cooler!!!cj737 wrote:A 17 will get hot with high amps and prolonged duty. But, it’s far more manageable than a 26. If you want the best of both worlds, a water-cooled 20 is a treat. You’ll need a water cooler, but it makes life simply pleasurable.
A 26 torch cable and torch are like having a Stick stinger in your hand and wrapping those leads around your arm and shoulder. Heavy, cumbersome and a PITA. I’ve got a 26 I use only in rare circumstances of needing to weld seriously thick ally.
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If you have a 200amp power source and you want to use it all you need a 26 torch.
First time you do some fab work fillets you're going to be punching 130-170 amps. A 17 torch is going to get mighty hot in your hand and if you do a lot it will melt.
Ideal situation is to have a 26 torch for fab work and save up for a ck flexlok 17 torch for lighter work like sheet metal but also gets to all the tight awkward spots. Believe me they happen.
Also if you practice up with the 26 torch it's not so cumbersome. I use mine all day. Sometimes I can't be bothered changing torches and do sheet stuff with the 26.
Put on the big boy pants and go for it.
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First time you do some fab work fillets you're going to be punching 130-170 amps. A 17 torch is going to get mighty hot in your hand and if you do a lot it will melt.
Ideal situation is to have a 26 torch for fab work and save up for a ck flexlok 17 torch for lighter work like sheet metal but also gets to all the tight awkward spots. Believe me they happen.
Also if you practice up with the 26 torch it's not so cumbersome. I use mine all day. Sometimes I can't be bothered changing torches and do sheet stuff with the 26.
Put on the big boy pants and go for it.
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Agree with Coldman -
if your expecting to use 150 amps for long or more & can't afford to go water cooled or need to stay portable then you need 2toches - a 17 is only rated generally 25amps more than a 9 & I don't really believe that as the power cables are usually the same - when you fry a torch it's almost always the end connection in the torch handle where the copper cable crimps to the brass I never melted a torch ( yet ! ) collets tend to suffer first unless the wedge style ( totally worth having ) only thing 17 brings to the party is large consumables so I don't get why they are so popular - I never went water cooled as I do have to drag the thing around sometimes so I leave a 9 & a 26 connected all the time & just turn the gas to the appropriate torch - anything big & particularly fillets I use the 26 - any small stainless like kitchen stuff / boat stuff or exhausts I use the 9 - works for me - except the odd time I have a "senior moment " & forget to swap the gas when swapping torches !
if your expecting to use 150 amps for long or more & can't afford to go water cooled or need to stay portable then you need 2toches - a 17 is only rated generally 25amps more than a 9 & I don't really believe that as the power cables are usually the same - when you fry a torch it's almost always the end connection in the torch handle where the copper cable crimps to the brass I never melted a torch ( yet ! ) collets tend to suffer first unless the wedge style ( totally worth having ) only thing 17 brings to the party is large consumables so I don't get why they are so popular - I never went water cooled as I do have to drag the thing around sometimes so I leave a 9 & a 26 connected all the time & just turn the gas to the appropriate torch - anything big & particularly fillets I use the 26 - any small stainless like kitchen stuff / boat stuff or exhausts I use the 9 - works for me - except the odd time I have a "senior moment " & forget to swap the gas when swapping torches !
I own the sq 200. I have the 26 torch and an arczone rotary control on top and a push button on bottom. It doesn't get hot like the original. I use it for aluminum and it takes all 200 amps. I would recommend the size 26 torch. You will have to buy an adapter for the dinse. It's from profax. I will look up the part number if you need it
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Yeah, put on your big boy gloves and use a 17 like the rest of us Big Boys. I use a 17 99% of the time, even well above the rated 150 amps. The amount of time you’re actually welding with a TIG rig as hobbyist won’t damage the torch. It can get hot, but drop it in a quench bucket, blow some Argon through it, and weld away.Coldman wrote:Put on the big boy pants and go for it.
There’s all types of conditions where one size torch is beneficial over another. But in reality, your SW200 doesn’t have the duty cycle to run at 200 amps long enough to damage a torch before it will go into standby mode and cool itself off.
In the end, use what makes you comfortable and productive. I have a 9, 17 and 26 each on their own 25’ super flex cable for rapid changes. Each has a sweet spot with me, but the 17 is my daily driver for steel or ally.
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