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TraditionalToolworks wrote:George,

I just watched your video, and I'm surprised that all you've been told is clean, clean, clean.

You have mismatched consumables, that's your problem.

My suggestion:
1) Ditch that crap gas lens and the insulator.
2) Use only the standard consumables that came with your torch.
3) Take the extra o-ring off from your back cap.
4) Remove the back cap entirely.
5) Use the standard insulator with the standard collet body, standard collet and standard cup.
6) With the insulator on your torch, screw the collet body in all the way and hand tighten.
7) Add your collet in the top of the torch.
8) Insert your sharpened tungsten through either rear or front of torch head.
9) Add the back cap and tighten with the tungsten sticking out appropriate length for cup being used.
10) Set gas to appropriate level for cup.

Cleaning the material is not your issue, IMO, you have created the problem by mismatching consumables and are most likely sucking air. You should NOT be using 2 insulators.

My $0.02.
I thought so too, but now that I see that gas lens insulator, that specific one that he has does (AFAIK) require the use of the stock insulator before it goes on. I wasn't sure, which is why I asked to see what it looks like from the rear. It is not meant to be butted up against the torch because then it bulges out the rubber lip on the torch head. In any event, I don't like the 2-pc insulator for gas lens setups, but that is just my personal preference. It just makes it too bulky.

The way he has the torch set-up at 3:52ish is exactly what your steps already indicate: the stock setup with standard consumables.
- I am always out of position, I put all the weight to my left arm (torch hand) and when I try to move I am stuck, I have to lift the torch so I am changing the distance, when I do that I sometimes loosing the position of my right arm and I add the filler way up near the tungsten out of the shield and that’s why there is some black smoke on those beads and I also think, one time, I touched the filler to the very tip of the tungsten
jeryc0,

This is an area where improvement will also show improvement in the welds. Keeping a consistent arc length is very important. You will get there with practice. The important thing is you have realized where you need to change. Tighten up your core muscles and keep the weight on your arms as little as possible, so you can easily glide along. Since you are posting not only great pictures and videos, you qualify to receive a "gas lens apparatus" for free from me so you can use it with your standard consumables. Please see what I did here, and let me know if you would like to receive a set of rings/mesh screens.
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Thank you Oscar, BillE.Dee, TraditionalToolworks and everybody, really ,for your good advices and encouraging words, I was close to give up but now that I see the equipment is fine and the fault is entirely mine I'll do my best to change that to my advantage and not spend time chasing ghosts.

Oscar, that "gas lens apparatus" is an awesome idea, I would be more than happy to receive it, especially since I'm qualified :)
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jeryc0 wrote:Oscar, that "gas lens apparatus" is an awesome idea, I would be more than happy to receive it, especially since I'm qualified :)
No problem, I will have everyone participating in this thread to chip in for the shipping whether they like it or not :) . Do you want the kit for a #8 size or a different size? Also for what diameter tungsten? 2.4mm or 3.2mm?
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jeryc0 wrote:I was close to give up but now that I see the equipment is fine and the fault is entirely mine I'll do my best to change that to my advantage and not spend time chasing ghosts.
Chinese Confucius say, "Banggood equivalent to BangHead!" :lol:
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Oscar wrote:
jeryc0 wrote:Oscar, that "gas lens apparatus" is an awesome idea, I would be more than happy to receive it, especially since I'm qualified :)
No problem, I will have everyone participating in this thread to chip in for the shipping whether they like it or not :) . Do you want the kit for a #8 size or a different size? Also for what diameter tungsten? 2.4mm or 3.2mm?
2.4 mm, I don't think I am going to use a bigger one soon, regarding the cup size, no7 is the biggest I have for the moment but I suppose I can find a no 8 cup so no 8 should be fine; first lets's find out about shipping costs, don't want to make anyone spent on my behalf, I'll pay for shipment, thank you, again and again
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cj737 wrote:Stop chasing rabbits. There’s nothing wrong with your torch or consumables or your machine...All of this is clear evidence the issues are YOU, not your machine.
"I was close to give up but now that I see the equipment is fine and the fault is entirely mine I'll do my best to change that to my advantage and not spend time chasing ghosts."

What the hell took you so long???? :lol:
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Seems I’m a little slow on taking advice :) by the way, thank you for your input, for sure it helped !
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I finally succeeded to refill the bottle, I went to fill it at a distribution place that I read about they have the best gas (if there is such a thing) today I received and installed the bottle, first bead that I run was on the same dirty diamond plate that I have, I didn’t see any improvement, this is the second bead that I run, this time I added filler:
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Then I tried a corner joint:
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No cleaning of the materials or the filler, a completely different result, so on top of my bad technique I had a bad gas, now all I have to do is to spend time under the hood!

Thank you again for all you’re help, I still have a lot to learn but I declare myself satisfied :)
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Looks good. If you do clean the material you get even better results.
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Good job getting it figured out guys. The welds are looking terrific. It really sucks to see someone who's a beginner have problems like a faulty torch or bad gas to compound all the other issues of not knowing how to diagnose a problem. You've got stuff that will often stump an experienced welder and then here's a new guy saddled with that.

I had only seen the first couple posts of this thread and then I have not been on much. There are several issues that I hope he remembers the cure to. Most of all that post flow not being long enough. That makes a mess out of a piece of tungsten and no weld looks perfect afterward. On my welder the post flow is handled automatically by the amount of Arc time and current. It can be set manually but I just leave it on auto. Some people might think it seems a little long but I figure gas is cheap. Ugly welds aren't.

Oscar, if you're going to send some items, I do know international shipping is kind of expensive. I would be willing to send some aluminum and even kicking some for the shipping. My guess without looking at the USPS site is it'll be $65.
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