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We probably should be a little more restrained on these jokes. As fun as they are, we have new members every day, and I'd hate for us to be misunderstood before they get to know us.

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Otto Nobedder wrote:We probably should be a little more restrained on these jokes. As fun as they are, we have new members every day, and I'd hate for us to be misunderstood before they get to know us.

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So after their first hijacked thread they should know us pretty well, huh? :D (Exnailpounder and Farm boy) :o
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Otto Nobedder wrote:We probably should be a little more restrained on these jokes. As fun as they are, we have new members every day, and I'd hate for us to be misunderstood before they get to know us.

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So after their first hijacked thread they should know us pretty well, huh? :D (Exnailpounder and Farm boy) :o
Yeah right! This was MY thread you guys hi-jacked...I have no idea how to jack my own thread :lol: New people need to realize that this isn't like the other sites where egos rule. We have very little of that here and the super stars usually come and go pretty quickly. It's nice that total noobs can show up here and ask questions without fear of ridicule...they just can't fear a thread-jack...cause it's gonna happen...when Farmboy shows up :lol:
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We've jettisoned the use of 4043 for 4943 on 6xxx TIG back in 2015. Our decision was based on the net gained increase in yield/tensile strength of welded 4943, especially in fillet joints. From our perspective, the added Mg of 4943 provides a subtle edge in weld pool fluidity and wet-in during arclight. 4043 is fine and is used everyday by fabricators with excellent results. Our LWS also supports our interests and sources the 4943 in 10# stacks for us at an excellent price.

5356 and 4047 are additional weapons of choice for us, based on 5xxx, cast, and Anodized applications. Other Aluminum alloy fillers ride along for fringes for unique applications and base metal matching.

If you are unable to weld properly using 4043, 4943 will not solve your issues. Focused hood time via training, intent, and material preparation will.

Discover the industry motivation, concept of base metal dilution with welded Aluminum alloys, and comparative metallurgy properties of 4943 and 4043 at ITW - Development of Alloy 4943.
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Otto Nobedder wrote:We probably should be a little more restrained on these jokes. As fun as they are, we have new members every day, and I'd hate for us to be misunderstood before they get to know us.

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So after their first hijacked thread they should know us pretty well, huh? :D (Exnailpounder and Farm boy) :o
Yeah right! This was MY thread you guys hi-jacked...I have no idea how to jack my own thread :lol: New people need to realize that this isn't like the other sites where egos rule. We have very little of that here and the super stars usually come and go pretty quickly. It's nice that total noobs can show up here and ask questions without fear of ridicule...they just can't fear a thread-jack...cause it's gonna happen...when Farmboy shows up :lol:
The only reason I became so connected to this forum is because of how laid back it is. The fact that you can thoroughly AND I MEAN THOROUGHLY derail these thread time and time again and still answer the persons question is what makes it awesome :D

I got a sick new build I did yesterday to swagger up my refrigeration work with a spanky new cart, gonna post some pictures later.

Wondering how its related to this thread? It's all done with 4943, BAM! supreme strength :lol:
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I agree completely. All I was suggesting was that we choose our jokes carefully. It's an area where I catch myself being competitive, and I have to police myself carefully to not put up something that could sound racist or otherwise potentially offensive to any of our members. Sometimes, alcohol has affected my judgement, and I've posted the inappropriate... only to see it on the page, and quickly take it down. When it's too much for the forum, I've been known to share via PM.

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Arclight Ironworks wrote:We've jettisoned the use of 4043 for 4943 on 6xxx TIG back in 2015. Our decision was based on the net gained increase in yield/tensile strength of welded 4943, especially in fillet joints. From our perspective, the added Mg of 4943 provides a subtle edge in weld pool fluidity and wet-in during arclight. 4043 is fine and is used everyday by fabricators with excellent results. Our LWS also supports our interests and sources the 4943 in 10# stacks for us at an excellent price.

5356 and 4047 are additional weapons of choice for us, based on 5xxx, cast, and Anodized applications. Other Aluminum alloy fillers ride along for fringes for unique applications and base metal matching.

If you are unable to weld properly using 4043, 4943 will not solve your issues. Focused hood time via training, intent, and material preparation will.

Discover the industry motivation, concept of base metal dilution with welded Aluminum alloys, and comparative metallurgy properties of 4943 and 4043 at ITW - Development of Alloy 4943.
I've read other, shorter versions that appear to come from this document - I think that's an excellent write-up on 4943

Their conclusion is pretty direct in favor of 4943.
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Otto Nobedder wrote:I agree completely. All I was suggesting was that we choose our jokes carefully. It's an area where I catch myself being competitive, and I have to police myself carefully to not put up something that could sound racist or otherwise potentially offensive to any of our members. Sometimes, alcohol has affected my judgement, and I've posted the inappropriate... only to see it on the page, and quickly take it down. When it's too much for the forum, I've been known to share via PM.

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Strictly person opinion, I find the sexual innuendo derails to be ridiculous.
Members bragging about "teaching" this stuff to young people is even worse.

I'm not saying I've always shown perfect judgement online, I'm human so clearly I haven't.
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Otto Nobedder wrote:I agree completely. All I was suggesting was that we choose our jokes carefully. It's an area where I catch myself being competitive, and I have to police myself carefully to not put up something that could sound racist or otherwise potentially offensive to any of our members. Sometimes, alcohol has affected my judgement, and I've posted the inappropriate... only to see it on the page, and quickly take it down. When it's too much for the forum, I've been known to share via PM.

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I'll stick my neck out and say that the likelihood of that happening here is about the same as that of hell freezing over ! :mrgreen:
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Post away Olivero...you know me...I don't care. 8-)
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Otto Nobedder wrote:I agree completely. All I was suggesting was that we choose our jokes carefully. It's an area where I catch myself being competitive, and I have to police myself carefully to not put up something that could sound racist or otherwise potentially offensive to any of our members. Sometimes, alcohol has affected my judgement, and I've posted the inappropriate... only to see it on the page, and quickly take it down. When it's too much for the forum, I've been known to share via PM.

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Strictly person opinion, I find the sexual innuendo derails to be ridiculous.
Members bragging about "teaching" this stuff to young people is even worse.

I'm not saying I've always shown perfect judgement online, I'm human so clearly I haven't.
I'm not quite sure, but I have a feeling that was aimed at me.
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Does barkeepers friend polish a halo?

Cause mine is a little tarnished. And dented. At the pawn shop. :lol:
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PeteM wrote:Does barkeepers friend polish a halo?

Cause mine is a little tarnished. And dented. At the pawn shop. :lol:
Good question :lol: I set my halo down at a party one night and never saw it again. Nowadays, young kids are sexting dirty pics to each other and screwing the teachers...and welders who have been participants in life are the new scourge....we need a "shaking my head" emoticon.
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exnailpounder wrote:....we need a "shaking my head" emoticon.
Sorry. Thats at the pawn shop too. Old habits, ya know? :)
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1. Learn to tie your shoes.
2. Learn to cross the street.
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I'm pretty liberal but all the PC stuff is just a distraction from reality. Less fun, too!

Arclight... the data in your link makes me like 4043 for its structural properties. I weld my own designs so strong gets me to sleep an hour sooner after hitting the pillow. I have enough to worry about.
Specifically higher tensile.
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PeteM wrote:Does barkeepers friend polish a halo?

Cause mine is a little tarnished. And dented. At the pawn shop. :lol:
Good question :lol: I set my halo down at a party one night and never saw it again. Nowadays, young kids are sexting dirty pics to each other and screwing the teachers...and welders who have been participants in life are the new scourge....we need a "shaking my head" emoticon.
Back on track here for a second,

Here is the cart I was talking about.
Loaded up, lacking a couple of things.
Loaded up, lacking a couple of things.
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Know that time on a job where you need a place close by to put that small thing that always gets knocked off wherever you put it? My concept was to fix that by having a worktable that can hinge around in any way I need to provide the best spot for me, doesen't hold much weight as its not supported anywhere but the hinge but enough for handtools and schrader cores and putting the brazing torch down for a moment and such things.
Hinged out one way, does 360*
Hinged out one way, does 360*
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Hinged the other way.
Hinged the other way.
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Got some weld on hinges, big monsters these ones. 6" or so long.
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Close up of hinge
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added some I bolts to strap in the bottles when its rollin'.
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With the bag.
With the bag.
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All in all, pretty happy about it, it was all built out of leftovers from other fabrication projects or repair jobs. Been laying on a shelf somewhere for months, figured I might as well put it to use.
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Very nice! Nice enough to get the topic back on the rails, at least to the next depot.

Well thought out, and well organized.
Who makes the li'l vacuum pump? It looks like an Edwards, but I can't tell at that size and resolution.

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Strictly person opinion, I find the sexual innuendo derails to be ridiculous.
Members bragging about "teaching" this stuff to young people is even worse.

I'm not saying I've always shown perfect judgement online, I'm human so clearly I haven't.
Yeah, the sexual references show the hidden 12 year-old in all of us, and it's a place we don't really need to go, unless the joke is truly flawless and not utterly tasteless. I'll confess to a bit of that on the thread derail of our new "Mick" from OZ, where it descended into strange town names.

Braggarts don't last long here, from what I've seen.

I think part of why I mentioned it at all is to remind myself to be careful. I'm supposed to be part of the example, not the problem.

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Nice work Olivero! Nice vacuum pump...whadda ya use that for ;) It's vodka and lemonade today if anyone was wondering.
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exnailpounder wrote:Nice work Olivero! Nice vacuum pump...whadda ya use that for ;) It's vodka and lemonade today if anyone was wondering.
Is there a schedule or do you have a wheel you spin like a game show?

As for that pump cart-wow I don't know what I'd do with that but I've gotta have it because who doesn't need more cool tools they don't need-but I'm sure you need them.
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Haha, thanks.

The vacuum pump is a JB industries.

It was a cool little project, I got tired of rolling it around on a magliner and dropping shit off it, vacuum pump and recovery unit is considered holy in my book, no bumping or damaging it, they develop a leak, your screwed, so I figured this was the best way.

ITs funny how when you first start out fabbing, you gotta have a drawing, this I built without any drawing, just going off in my mind, piecing it together.
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exnailpounder wrote:Nice work Olivero! Nice vacuum pump...whadda ya use that for ;) It's vodka and lemonade today if anyone was wondering.
Is there a schedule or do you have a wheel you spin like a game show?

As for that pump cart-wow I don't know what I'd do with that but I've gotta have it because who doesn't need more cool tools they don't need-but I'm sure you need them.
Nah...I just look at whatever I have in the fridge and decide what to drink that day.
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"ITs funny how when you first start out fabbing, you gotta have a drawing, this I built without any drawing, just going off in my mind, piecing it together.
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every time i do a build without some decent drawing it seems
like a cut and re-weld to often.
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Man, this thread is making me want to use my 4943 to build something! Hopefully I will soon, vacation time is just around the corner. I can finally use the 30lbs of 4943 that I have bunker'ed away. :) I still have some 4043, so I'll have to use that up inthe process, seeing as how 4943 is literally the same price.
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