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Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:04 pm
by Mr. Moose
AndersK,

You might find some useful info here:

http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/tig ... ideos.html:

In particular, there's a video in that section titled "Tig welding stainless steel with a stubby gas lens kit" that will look very much like what you're trying to do with the lap joint. It will give you a better idea of the speed we're making reference to...

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:14 pm
by Otto Nobedder
AndersK wrote:You guys has to be the most polite bunch on the internet ...
:D
Thanks for noticing!
We like it that way.
We've faced questions from "How does potassium chloride contribute to corrosions-stress cracking?" to "How do I plug this in?"
We take everyone seriously.
Steve S

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:26 pm
by AndersK
Mr. Moose wrote:AndersK,

You might find some useful info here:

http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/tig ... ideos.html:

In particular, there's a video in that section titled "Tig welding stainless steel with a stubby gas lens kit" that will look very much like what you're trying to do with the lap joint. It will give you a better idea of the speed we're making reference to...
I think I know which one you mean. Had another look at it this weekend and I noticed I moved as fast or even faster. I did some more practice yesterday and slowed down a lot to get better consistency, to my surprise the color was still quite good. I used the torch switch on and off frequently to control the heat with help of the downslope ( increased it to 3s).

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:51 pm
by AndersK
Superiorwelding wrote: I would suggest working on your actual welding technique rather than focusing on the coloring. I still see inconsistent beadwidth and spacing,
Better?
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Ok, needs better consistency and a little too hot in some places.
This weld run all around for 450 mm. I was welding 1-2" each pass and jumped around (wording?) to avoid distorsion

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:57 pm
by Superiorwelding
AndersK,
What an improvement!!!! That my friend is very acceptable! Good job on making those transitions. The fillet is hard let alone a rounded fillet. Keep that up!
-Jonathan

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:17 pm
by Jacked800
I've been welding a good bit of kitchen stainless the past few months and had my share of issues trying to perfect my welds so they disappear into the kitchen equipment, sinks, hoods, tables....... Most of the stuff is 18 gauge and I've tried everything. What's working best for me right now in an .040 2% lanthanated tungsten in a 9 torch with a #4 cup about 40-45 amps although I'm only using a lot of peddle to wet up, then I'm on it just enough to keep the puddle moving, and using about 17 cf of straight argon, .035 309L wire.
Like I said, that seems to be working best for me "right now". I tried the gas lens. I tried the tri mix. I tried bigger cup which most of the time I like using a #6.
Sometimes you might have to find what works for you.
Thanks, Jack

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:27 pm
by AndersK
Thanks
Two major changes. I put led light on my helmet so I can see what I'm doing (changed helmet a while ago but didnt swap the lights...)
and I bought a pedal, should have done that a long time ago...
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Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:33 pm
by Superiorwelding
Nice! The pedal will help a lot. Keep the pics coming.

Now I am interested in your shop set up. Looks sweet. I have wanted to put a set of tools out like you have but don't want them to get all dusty :roll: :lol:
-Jonathan

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:56 pm
by Jacked800
It is also pretty important to me, that I have something to rest my fore arm on. Keeps your hands steady. I use the tig finger, sometimes a pair of old gloves, sometimes a wooden 2x4, back of my shop chair. Whatever it take to steady my hands enough to keep the point of that tungsten exactly where I want it to be. Makes a big difference when you have total control and not trying to free hand it.

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:38 pm
by Braehill
Anders,
You need to post your picture in the "Rogues Gallery" post.

The pedal will make a huge difference on heat input control. It's good to have somewhere to lean on but try to get used to leaning with a very light touch so you can advance easily without rolling the torch and losing good torch angle. I find that when I'm in an position where I had to lean on something to brace myself that I roll my torch more and my gas coverage suffers. I hope that makes sense.

Len

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:44 am
by Rick_H
Looking very good!

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:10 am
by Oscar
Yup good improvement. Difficult to get that straw color on such thin material, but short runs do help a lot. Heat-sinking would also help as well.

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:24 am
by AndersK
Superiorwelding wrote: I have wanted to put a set of tools out like you have but don't want them to get all dusty :roll: :lol:
-Jonathan
You know you have to use them to keep dust off? :mrgreen:

I agree about what you all say about support and a soft grip. I use the tig finger where it helps. I also use an IKEA fire blanket that I cut pieces from. Fold a couple times and it can be used to slide on without burning through.

Having the pedal is also positive on torch grip when I'm not forced to hold it a certain way to reach the trigger.

Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:54 pm
by AndersK
Added a cap so there are outside corners to weld
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Some angled tubes. A 9 torch felt big between the two...
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Re: SS practice, to get right color

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:05 pm
by Oscar
You need a CK Micro-Tig Torch

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