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Finding The Right Amperage For Tug Welding Stainless Steel

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 6:29 pm
by rahtreelimbs
How do you find the appropriate amperage for tig welding stainless steel? It is so easy to get too hot......the weld turns black.......eventually rust will appear.

Re: Finding The Right Amperage For Tug Welding Stainless Ste

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:24 pm
by cj737
I find myself running about 75% of the thickness in amps. For example, .125 material I run about 90-95 amps. For 0.063, I’m running about 43-48 amps. It’s not exact, because filler or fused, joint type, etc all effect the weld parameters.

You definitely need a LOT of gas coverage when welding stainless. You also need to get a puddle and GO! No loitering around and cooking the metal. If your weld is turning black, you’ve got a gas coverage issue. Step up your cup size and turn up the gas. I use a gas lens and a #12 cup almost exclusively when welding stainless.

Re: Finding The Right Amperage For Tug Welding Stainless Ste

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:35 pm
by Poland308
Depending on the size of what your welding you also need to be aware of heat saturation. Small or thin parts require lots of small welds and cool time between them. Interpass temps are critical.

Re: Finding The Right Amperage For Tug Welding Stainless Ste

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:14 am
by motox
smallest rod size also
craig

Re: Finding The Right Amperage For Tug Welding Stainless Ste

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:39 am
by cj737
motox wrote:smallest rod size also
There's a scenario where this actually hurts, in that you can't chill the puddle enough so you end up with saturation as Poland indicated. I did some 0.040 sheet for a decorative countertop that demanded filler to prevent burn-back and blow-out. Dropped to a 1/16th tungsten, purged the back, and still had to use 0.045 wire on a flush-fit seam. I'm sure better welders than me could have done it without, but not this old hack. :oops:

With stainless, I find its nearly impossible to dictate exact parameters due to the myriad of conditions involved. Thin or thick? Flat or uphill/overhead? Fused or filled welds? Pulse or not. Just too many variables...

Re: Finding The Right Amperage For Tug Welding Stainless Ste

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:17 pm
by LtBadd
cj737 wrote: I find its nearly impossible to dictate exact parameters due to the myriad of conditions involved. Thin or thick? Flat or uphill/overhead? Fused or filled welds? Pulse or not. Just too many variables...
Thick to thin, besides I don't want to be straped to the idea I have to know the amps, you need to just get the machine close and weld with the foot pedal watching the bead to determine what you need.

Re: Finding The Right Amperage For Tug Welding Stainless Ste

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:22 pm
by tungstendipper
cj737 wrote:
motox wrote:smallest rod size also
There's a scenario where this actually hurts, in that you can't chill the puddle enough so you end up with saturation as Poland indicated. I did some 0.040 sheet for a decorative countertop that demanded filler to prevent burn-back and blow-out. Dropped to a 1/16th tungsten, purged the back, and still had to use 0.045 wire on a flush-fit seam. I'm sure better welders than me could have done it without, but not this old hack. :oops:

With stainless, I find its nearly impossible to dictate exact parameters due to the myriad of conditions involved. Thin or thick? Flat or uphill/overhead? Fused or filled welds? Pulse or not. Just too many variables...
How did you purge the backside? Been wondering this all day.

Re: Finding The Right Amperage For Tug Welding Stainless Ste

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 10:08 pm
by cj737
tungstendipper wrote:
cj737 wrote:
motox wrote:smallest rod size also
There's a scenario where this actually hurts, in that you can't chill the puddle enough so you end up with saturation as Poland indicated. I did some 0.040 sheet for a decorative countertop that demanded filler to prevent burn-back and blow-out. Dropped to a 1/16th tungsten, purged the back, and still had to use 0.045 wire on a flush-fit seam. I'm sure better welders than me could have done it without, but not this old hack. :oops:

With stainless, I find its nearly impossible to dictate exact parameters due to the myriad of conditions involved. Thin or thick? Flat or uphill/overhead? Fused or filled welds? Pulse or not. Just too many variables...
How did you purge the backside? Been wondering this all day.
For the long, flat seams, had a set of hands run a hose against the backside. For corners, I built a purge block jig. I use Western Quick Connects and attain a hose, open the tank, and clamp the jig into position.keeps things square, seams tight, and purge against the open seams.