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TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:00 am
by dewdrop9
I was just wondering if you can weld aluminum and stainless steal to each other and what kind of tungsten and filler rod you would need

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:40 pm
by Otto Nobedder
That'd be a "no".

They make transition pieces, one side stainless, one side aluminum, so you CAN join the two metals. I've used them joining 304 with 6061-T6 (this was for pipe... don't know about structural sections). There is a temperature limit, and the piece comes with an attached non-resetting thermometer strip to tell you the ultimate temp you've reached at the critical part of the joint.

I suspect it's a high-precision interference fit, with the aluminum sleeved inside the stainless, with the aluminum pre-shrunk in liquid nitrogen, and excess temps de-temper the aluminum and ruin the joint.

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:23 pm
by dewdrop9
Ok Steve so what if i wanted to weld stainless to steel would that work because you would use DC like you would use for both?

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:57 pm
by Otto Nobedder
dewdrop9 wrote:Ok Steve so what if i wanted to weld stainless to steel would that work because you would use DC like you would use for both?
Yes, indeed.

ER309 is specifically intended for welding carbon steel to stainless steel, and is done DCEN just like carbon steel.

Steve S

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:44 pm
by dewdrop9
ok steve but what if i wanted to do the same with a mig welder what would i need to do that i got a millermatic 252 at school that i can use what would you or anyone else recommend?

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:36 pm
by Fat Bob
309/309L Stainless Steel MIG Welding Wire.

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:57 pm
by Otto Nobedder
Fat Bob wrote:309/309L Stainless Steel MIG Welding Wire.
And if you have it available, stainless MIG looks better (and welds hotter) with tri-mix than with 75/25.

Steve S

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:15 pm
by NYWELDERJim
Steve,

Can you elaboarte on tri-mix gases? If have heard several welders refer to them. What gases are blended together in what ratios for what materials? How much benefit does a tri-mix of gases provide? Thanks!

Jim

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:44 pm
by dewdrop9
thanks steve you really know you stuff

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:40 pm
by Otto Nobedder
"Tri-mix" gas for stainless steel MIG usually refers to 90% helium, 7.5% argon, and 2.5% CO2.

"Tri-mix" can actually mean many things in the welding world, though.

Sad it's not standardazed... :oops:

Steve S

Re: TIG welding stainless and aluminum

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:13 pm
by NYWELDERJim
Thanks Steve. I saw in someone's recent post a statement abut a tri-mix tungsten. As if this welding technology wasn't complicated enough!