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when should a guy use a gas lense

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:52 am
by AKweldshop
I here all the time that u should use a gas lense to get better shielding, and then some times I here a collet will work just fine :?:

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when should u use a gas lense, and when will a collet work thanks

John ;)

Re: when should a guy use a gas lense

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:48 am
by noddybrian
I'm not formally trained in Tig - so this is just my opinion -

A gas lens will usually give better / more uniform shielding - usually using lower CFH of gas which is expensive & I have to pay for mine ! so I use a gas lens pretty much all the time I'm able to - I see no reason not to - I only use a standard collet body if the physical size of the lens wont fit ( in say a tube cluster joint ) or I'm welding a contaminated material likely to "spit" that will damage the screens of the gas lens - under normal circumstances if the size does hinder torch angle / placement I leave a #7 lens on for everything.

Re: when should a guy use a gas lense

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:56 am
by jdpflyer
noddybrian wrote:I'm not formally trained in Tig - so this is just my opinion -

A gas lens will usually give better / more uniform shielding - usually using lower CFH of gas which is expensive & I have to pay for mine ! so I use a gas lens pretty much all the time I'm able to - I see no reason not to - I only use a standard collet body if the physical size of the lens wont fit ( in say a tube cluster joint ) or I'm welding a contaminated material likely to "spit" that will damage the screens of the gas lens - under normal circumstances if the size does hinder torch angle / placement I leave a #7 lens on for everything.

I agree with noddybrain. I use a gas lens unless space will not allow it.

Re: when should a guy use a gas lense

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:43 pm
by coldman
With a standard collet and cup, the argon flow is turbulent and like a swirl because the argon leaves the collet via holes in the side of the collet body. With increased cfh, the swirl can even draw air in causing contamination so therefore not the best option for outside use. For workshop use it is the most economical in terms of gas consumption. For bigger shield, use a bigger cup.

Gas flow out of a gas lense is laminar allowing higher cfh to be used which makes it ideal to use outside to counter the effects of wind on the shield. It also can provide a greater shield for critical finish items like staino etc.

Re: when should a guy use a gas lense

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:00 am
by weldin mike 27
Hey, i bought myself some gas lenses for Christmas, they arraived today, never used one before. Seems like a good thing. Definitely makes a difference on the bit of ss tube i played with. :-)

Mick

Re: when should a guy use a gas lense

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:28 pm
by TamJeff
Everybody should use one but me. I weld outside a lot, wind or no wind. Somehow, I seem to get by without a lens. I have had to turn the gas up before though.

In the shop I can weld aluminum on 10cfh without much issue unless I am really moving along at high amps and then I may turn it up to 15-20 cfh.

Re: when should a guy use a gas lense

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:40 pm
by MinnesotaDave
I don't much care either way except for one thing - stick out length.

Being able to stick the tungsten out really far to reach where I need to is awesome.

I don't weld with it out very far normally, but it's nice when I need it :)

I should experiment and see how much gas I can save with one - I run about 17cfh in the shop with a regular set-up.
(That's with the flow measured at the torch tip, not what the meter reads)