Welding Tips and Tricks

How does the dcen current get to the the tungsten?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251435826829?ss ... 1423.l2649
this is the torch I'm looking at.

Is this the part?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Weldcraft-Power ... 2a3169a9d8

If so, were's your torch valve or selanoid?

I don't quite understand what you are asking here. You have a watercooled torch in the link posted, and it is made for a welder with an internal argon solenoid. And AFAIK, the power cable adapter is just to go from one size torch lead to a different size DINSE connector? Correct me if I'm wrong in that regard someone. I'm not really sure, as I never really payed attention as to whether any of ours at school, or my dad's here has one

AKweldshop wrote:How does the dcen current get to the the tungsten?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251435826829?ss ... 1423.l2649
this is the torch I'm looking at.

Is this the part?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Weldcraft-Power ... 2a3169a9d8

If so, were's your torch valve or selanoid?

I don't think that's the part.

CK runs power down one of the hoses. In the case of water-cooled torches, it looks like it uses the return line. See the connection diagram here:
http://www.ckworldwide.com/CK20R.pdf
That torch has no valve, so you'd need a gas solenoid in your welder. They sell a version with a valve in the torch if you need it.

I've only researched air-cooled torches, which need an adapter like this to split out the power and gas:
https://www.weldfabulous.com/p-77559-ck ... 70-qd.aspx
I'd expect you need something similar (not this part) to split out the return water from the power connection.

A call to CK is a good idea to get the right parts spec'd for your particular setup.

Cheers,
Richard

John,
It would help if you told us what kind of machine you're trying to add a tig torch to. If the machine has a gas solonoid built in you can use the torch you have shown with either a water cooler or city water adapted to it and the return run to a drain. If your machine doesn't have a gas solonoid then you'll have to use a gas cooled torch with the valve in the handle to turn your Argon on and off.

As to the question of where it's getting it's power, it's usually the water return hose (it's encased in a braided cord) on a water cooled torch and the power cord on a two piece (Argon hose and power cord are seperate) air cooled or the Argon supply hose is encased in a braided power cord on a one piece air cooled.

The connection you have shown is to hook up a one piece air cooed torch to a terminal lug on a machine without a dinse connector. It can also be used to clamp a electrode holder for stick welding to use as a scratch start Tig if you only have a DC stick welder available and need to Tig weld, hooked up DCEN.

Len

Come to think of it, has anybody ever seen a water cooled torch with a gas valve in the handle?..... I haven't.

Len

I'm prolly gonna get the Everlast PowerArc 300 and the HTP Arctic chill 5460 and that torch in the ebay link
it'll be scratch start water cooled
I was wondering if you had a system to turn the gas on and of
Richard the diagram you sent me, show the power coming in the blue hose, so what about a valve
any thoughts , critisims, compliments, or ideas...
John

AKweldshop wrote:Richard the diagram you sent me, show the power coming in the blue hose, so what about a valve

Everlast's site says that welder needs a torch with a valve, which the eBay one isn't. http://www.everlastgenerators.com/Power ... 70-pd.html

The eBay torch kit seems to be CK's part number CK20-25SF (from the PDF I linked earlier). If so, I think you'd need CK20V-25SF to get the valve in the torch. These guys have good pricing, but I'm waiting on a torch from them so can't comment on their service yet (their website is really lacking in photos): http://store.mwsco.com/storefront/CKCK2 ... x-P-617275
or this one with a flex head for $9 more: http://store.mwsco.com/storefront/CKCK2 ... x-P-617276

But seriously, give the guys at CK a ring (800.426.0877) - it's easy to get them via phone and they can make sure you get the right parts (like the Dinse adapter).

Cheers,
Richard

hey Richard thanks for the flex head link, that looks like the one I need
Cheers, John

RichardH wrote:

AKweldshop wrote:Richard the diagram you sent me, show the power coming in the blue hose, so what about a valve

Everlast's site says that welder needs a torch with a valve, which the eBay one isn't. http://www.everlastgenerators.com/Power ... 70-pd.html

The eBay torch kit seems to be CK's part number CK20-25SF (from the PDF I linked earlier). If so, I think you'd need CK20V-25SF to get the valve in the torch. These guys have good pricing, but I'm waiting on a torch from them so can't comment on their service yet (their website is really lacking in photos): http://store.mwsco.com/storefront/CKCK2 ... x-P-617275
or this one with a flex head for $9 more: http://store.mwsco.com/storefront/CKCK2 ... x-P-617276

But seriously, give the guys at CK a ring (800.426.0877) - it's easy to get them via phone and they can make sure you get the right parts (like the Dinse adapter).

Cheers,
Richard

do you know if that is a Flex Head or a flex lock???

I want a flex lock or a standard....
I don't really like a flimsy flex head, but I used a cheepy.
Anyone like a flex head???

AKweldshop wrote:do you know if that is a Flex Head or a flex lock???

That's a flex head, not a Flex-Loc.

It doesn't look like Flex-Loc has a valve version with the water-cooled torches.
http://www.ckworldwide.com/flex-loc.htm