mig and flux core tips and techniques, equipment, filler metal
Greg From K/W
- Greg From K/W
-
Ace
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:55 pm
That's what I got with that machine I bought. Just wondering if anyone has worked with it. Its the smallest I have seen but I have never worked with it. Is it something to use with really thin metal on low settings? Seams to me that you would go through a pile of it to weld anything over 26 gauge sheet metal. Am I correct in that?
- Braehill
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:16 am
-
Location:Near Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania. Steel Buckle of the Rust Belt
Greg,
I don't do a lot of Mig welding but I've welded up to 3/16" with it and it did just fine. Actually the last thing I welded was 1/4" angle and it did fine.
Len
I don't do a lot of Mig welding but I've welded up to 3/16" with it and it did just fine. Actually the last thing I welded was 1/4" angle and it did fine.
Len
Now go melt something.
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
Greg From K/W
- Greg From K/W
-
Ace
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:55 pm
- AKweldshop
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:30 pm
-
Location:Palmer AK
I wouldn't use .023 wire for anything over 1/8 inch.....
Anything bigger, use .030 up to 1/4 inch....
I've welding 1/16 wall gal pipe together with .035 on my HH 190, on the lowest setting....
All about volts timed with wfs....
Anything bigger, use .030 up to 1/4 inch....
I've welding 1/16 wall gal pipe together with .035 on my HH 190, on the lowest setting....
All about volts timed with wfs....
Just a couple welders and a couple of big hammers and torches.
Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it.
Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it.
Trump/Carson 2016-2024
- Otto Nobedder
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:40 pm
-
Location:Near New Orleans
Greg,
Might as well use it up.
Typically, a liner for .023 is actually sized for .023 to .035, so you need only change the tip and guide rollers (check them; you may be able to reverse them for .030/.035). I find .035 a good univeral size for 1/8" through 3/8", and it's far less likely to "bird's nest" in the feeder than .023. As John said, .030 is a good size for that middle ground, between 16 ga. and 1/4"
It all depends on what you intend to do with the machine (and it's capabilities), though.
.023 is pretty common in thin applications like auto body repair. As others stated, you can use it on heavier stuff, up to the point where your wire-feed is maxed out, but you will burn a lot of wire.
Steve S
Might as well use it up.
Typically, a liner for .023 is actually sized for .023 to .035, so you need only change the tip and guide rollers (check them; you may be able to reverse them for .030/.035). I find .035 a good univeral size for 1/8" through 3/8", and it's far less likely to "bird's nest" in the feeder than .023. As John said, .030 is a good size for that middle ground, between 16 ga. and 1/4"
It all depends on what you intend to do with the machine (and it's capabilities), though.
.023 is pretty common in thin applications like auto body repair. As others stated, you can use it on heavier stuff, up to the point where your wire-feed is maxed out, but you will burn a lot of wire.
Steve S
Greg From K/W
- Greg From K/W
-
Ace
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:55 pm
Ok thanks Otto. I was thinking of thicker metals. But ya your right it would be great for auto body. Welding sheet metal and things like that. Thanks for the tips guys.
- Superiorwelding
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:13 pm
-
Location:Eddy, TX
We use .030 on occasion and as a general rule and per specs 150 amps should be the max you want to use for that wire. On the .023 I would have to say do not exceed 100 amps+/-. Your wire feed speed will be a lot higher with the smaller wire thus you will burn the spool out faster. I agree to burn it out, as long as you are not welding thicker material than it can handle.
-Jonathan
-Jonathan
Instagram- @superiorwelding/@learntotig
Twitter- @_JonathanLewis
https://www.learntotig.com
https://www.superiorweldandfab.com
https://www.youtube.com/+SuperiorWeldin ... ATHANLEWIS
Twitter- @_JonathanLewis
https://www.learntotig.com
https://www.superiorweldandfab.com
https://www.youtube.com/+SuperiorWeldin ... ATHANLEWIS
- Braehill
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:16 am
-
Location:Near Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania. Steel Buckle of the Rust Belt
My mig welder is in my shop at home and is there to use when I need something welded on a moments notice. It was set up to weld the bed panels on my son's pick-up and I just grabbed it and went with what was in there. I usually only weld under 3 or 4 small welds at any one time. I wasn't suggesting that the .023 wire be your go to wire for the sizes I mentioned.
Len
Len
Now go melt something.
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
Greg From K/W
- Greg From K/W
-
Ace
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:55 pm
Arizona SA200
- Arizona SA200
-
Ace
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:28 pm
-
Location:Arizona
Its all sold by the pound so size in that aspect doesn't matter. A 11 pound spool of .023 will make the same amount of weld that an 11 pound spool of .030 will. The wire feed speed will be faster but that is all that will change. .023 is meant for thinner material but can be used on heavier stuff.
I stack dimes for a living so i can stack dollars for a paycheck.
- AKweldshop
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:30 pm
-
Location:Palmer AK
I'd rather turn the wfs on a larger dia wire down, than turn the wfs up on small dia wire....
.030 is a very good comprimise....
.030 is a very good comprimise....
Just a couple welders and a couple of big hammers and torches.
Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it.
Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Men in dirty jeans built this country, while men in clean suits have destroyed it.
Trump/Carson 2016-2024
Down here in Bunny Land everything is built of 1.2(.047) to 3.17 "structural" I love running .023 !
I run a ton of .023 w/ CO2. When I need to jump in some SuperDuty 3/16, I tack everything with El MIGelito 140 and bust out Mr. Stick. If it's more than 2 kilos of rod I go to the barn and bust out the MM200 with .035. Truss job, cattle trailer or something. I don't have much room at the house,30 x 20 indoor shop and a 14 x 18 Hawaiian carport outside with a little work pit for that fun overhead stuff and torch cutting/sandblasting over.
If I need more than that I send the work elsewhere. I haven't been able to wash my feet in 15 years and pop more pills than Rush Limbaugh at a Dominican brothel ! Heavy stuff. Young guys, thanks .
I run a ton of .023 w/ CO2. When I need to jump in some SuperDuty 3/16, I tack everything with El MIGelito 140 and bust out Mr. Stick. If it's more than 2 kilos of rod I go to the barn and bust out the MM200 with .035. Truss job, cattle trailer or something. I don't have much room at the house,30 x 20 indoor shop and a 14 x 18 Hawaiian carport outside with a little work pit for that fun overhead stuff and torch cutting/sandblasting over.
If I need more than that I send the work elsewhere. I haven't been able to wash my feet in 15 years and pop more pills than Rush Limbaugh at a Dominican brothel ! Heavy stuff. Young guys, thanks .
echosixmike
- echosixmike
-
Workhorse
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:03 am
I just bought a MIG dedicated for autobody/automotive work and it's loaded with .023 wire per SOP. My PM300 is loaded with .035 for heavy stuff. S/F....Ken M
Red: PowerMIG 300, Square Wave 175
Blue: DEL200, Syncro250, XMT300
Green: STH160
Black: Tweco 181i Fabricator
Oddball: Craftsman HF unit
Blue: DEL200, Syncro250, XMT300
Green: STH160
Black: Tweco 181i Fabricator
Oddball: Craftsman HF unit
Return to “Mig and Flux Core - gas metal arc welding & flux cored arc welding”
Jump to
- Introductions & How to Use the Forum
- ↳ Welcome!
- ↳ Member Introductions
- ↳ How to Use the Forum
- ↳ Moderator Applications
- Welding Discussion
- ↳ Metal Cutting
- ↳ Tig Welding - Tig Welding Aluminum - Tig Welding Techniques - Aluminum Tig Welding
- ↳ Mig and Flux Core - gas metal arc welding & flux cored arc welding
- ↳ Stick Welding/Arc Welding - Shielded Metal Arc Welding
- ↳ Welding Forum General Shop Talk
- ↳ Welding Certification - Stick/Arc Welding, Tig Welding, Mig Welding Certification tests - Welding Tests of all kinds
- ↳ Welding Projects - Welding project Ideas - Welding project plans
- ↳ Product Reviews
- ↳ Fuel Gas Heating
- Welding Tips & Tricks
- ↳ Video Discussion
- ↳ Wish List
- Announcements & Feedback
- ↳ Forum News
- ↳ Suggestions, Feedback and Support
- Welding Marketplace
- ↳ Welding Jobs - Industrial Welding Jobs - Pipe Welding Jobs - Tig Welding Jobs
- ↳ Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade Used Welding Equipment
- Welding Resources
- ↳ Tradeshows, Seminars and Events
- ↳ The Welding Library
- ↳ Education Opportunities