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What causes these worm tracks in flux core weld?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:37 pm
by Mousegun
Just set up my MIG welder to use .045 dual shield wire and made a few test welds. (Don't laugh at the welds....literally the first quick and dirty test run.)
A couple of times I got these funny worm tracks lengthwise down the weld....never seen that before.
My settings were 23.5v and 300 ipm and about 30 cfh of 75/25 gas. The wire is Hobart Fabco Excel Arc 71 (E71T-1M H8)

Any idea what's causing the tracks?
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Re: What causes these worm tracks in flux core weld?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:38 pm
by Jack Ryan
Mousegun wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:37 pm Just set up my MIG welder to use .045 dual shield wire and made a few test welds. (Don't laugh at the welds....literally the first quick and dirty test run.)
A couple of times I got these funny worm tracks lengthwise down the weld....never seen that before.
My settings were 23.5v and 300 ipm and about 30 cfh of 75/25 gas. The wire is Hobart Fabco Excel Arc 71 (E71T-1M H8)

Any idea what's causing the tracks?

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If the metal properly prepared and is clean, and the flux core wire has been stored correctly (has not absorbed moisture), most likely there is not enough stick-out.

Jack

Re: What causes these worm tracks in flux core weld?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:56 am
by Mousegun
Doing better.....
It was a brand new roll of wire out of the bag so I don't think moisture is a problem and I'd ground the scale off the work with a flap disk.

I think the problem was mostly stick-out distance. I was holding longer than usual but it seems this needs a really long stick-out...nearly and inch.
I slid the nozzle out about 1/4" to encourage me to increase the distance.

Like I said, I'm new to this process but it looks like it'll be nice. From one video I watched it looks like a good vertical uphill process too.....they increased the wire speed and got a flatter bead with no electrode manipulation. It's basically like solid wire MIG spray transfer, but without the need for special gas mix.

I've got a little learning to do.

Re: What causes these worm tracks in flux core weld?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:54 am
by Jack Ryan
Mousegun wrote: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:56 am Doing better.....
It was a brand new roll of wire out of the bag so I don't think moisture is a problem and I'd ground the scale off the work with a flap disk.

I think the problem was mostly stick-out distance. I was holding longer than usual but it seems this needs a really long stick-out...nearly and inch.
I slid the nozzle out about 1/4" to encourage me to increase the distance.

Like I said, I'm new to this process but it looks like it'll be nice. From one video I watched it looks like a good vertical uphill process too.....they increased the wire speed and got a flatter bead with no electrode manipulation. It's basically like solid wire MIG spray transfer, but without the need for special gas mix.

I've got a little learning to do.
Glad you got it sorted.

The uncomfortably long stickout is required to preheat the flux so that it is properly activated at the business end.

A lot of flux core wires do operate in a spray mode. Ingredients in the flux promote that mode of transfer and an argon rich shielding gas is not required. The recommended gas is often C100 or C25.

And I think we all have learning to do.

Jack

Re: What causes these worm tracks in flux core weld?

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:55 pm
by Oscar
Also excessive voltage may be a contributing factor, so just double check that you are in the correct range of acceptable values, and don't skimp on the shielding gas flowrate. A lot of CO2 is needed for proper operation (not just the proper ratio), so keep it no less than 35 CFH is what I've found.