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Making Roses

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:40 pm
by xwrench
To make roses, I first cut three circles about 3.25" from thin sheet metal. I'm using an old fender. I clean up the circles with a flap disk. They don't need to be perfect. Then I mark an approx 3/4" circle in the center of each and five equally spaced lines around the outer edge. I find just eyeballing these is close enough. Center punch and drill a hole in the center of each circle for the stem. I use defluxed and polished 1/8" rod for the stem.
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Cut from the five marks on the circumference to the edge of the 3/4" circle in the center. Then fold the petals so that you can round the edges on a flap disk.
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Using pliers, carefully bend the petals into a sort of U shape. For the innermost row of petals, bend the U a little tighter and for the outer, a bit less.
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Fold the petals in with one edge overlapping the petal next to it. The center row will, of course, need to be folded the tightest and the outer, the least. I then weld each ring of petals to the stem starting with the center ring. I twist each ring around and experiment with the position until I like how it looks.
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I don't know what to call the piece that goes just below the flower but I make it from a four pointed star with a hole in the center. weld it to the stem then bend the arms down and curl the tips up.
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The leaves are cut from the same thickness as the flower but I use 3/32 rod for their stems. The pattern on the leaves is simply stamped with a chisel. Once it is all welded together, I look it over and give it little tweaks here and there, bending the petals out a little on the edges. Don't worry about being symmetrical, it's the little imperfections that give it character :lol:
I usually heat-blue and clear coat mine but I'm sure any finish could be used.

Cheers
-Eldon
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Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:08 am
by taz
Awesome post. A very detailed and easy to follow guide from start to finish.

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:40 am
by motox
really great post
thanks for sharing.
craig

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:42 am
by AndersK
Beatiful work.

I might have a pattern on pdf. If anyone is interested I can post it.

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:03 am
by Mike
Good stuff there thanks for sharing.

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:13 pm
by exnailpounder
AndersK wrote:Beatiful work.

I might have a pattern on pdf. If anyone is interested I can post it.
I am! Thanks Eldon, the pics help alot. How do you get the veining in the leaves? Looks like a chisel and piece of wood?

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:03 pm
by xwrench
I use a chisel but work right on my steel welding table. Wood might let it stamp a little deeper. I'll try that next time.
Cheers
-Eldon

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:05 pm
by xwrench
Also I usually tig these together but my argon is empty so I used mig. Sort of burned thru the leaves but I don't recommend that step. :lol:

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:37 pm
by rahtreelimbs
Made these the wifes birthday.

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Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:19 pm
by xwrench
Very nice. I like the look of six petals vs five on each row. Gonna try that next time.

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:53 pm
by exnailpounder
Rah...is that one flower copper? That is too badazz. How did you do it?

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:49 am
by AlexG
This is awesome! lovely roses you have made, it seems to be difficult for me to make this but i gonna try it as my wedding anniversary is coming on march and i will gonna give it to my wife 8-)

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:52 am
by AlexG
I couldn't understand after picture number 4 how did you cut the steel in the shape of petals?

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:40 am
by exnailpounder
AlexG wrote:I couldn't understand after picture number 4 how did you cut the steel in the shape of petals?
It looks like he plasma cuts them and them slips a cutoff wheel in the slot to clean them up.

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:12 am
by chev104275
Thanks for posting this How To. This was my First Attempt it Didn't come out too bad. The only thing I did that I would change was the metal thickness. The stuff I used was .050 thick stainless which was a little tough to bend correctly. I really like the copper one that may be my next one to try
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Re: Making Roses

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:51 pm
by xwrench
AlexG wrote:I couldn't understand after picture number 4 how did you cut the steel in the shape of petals?
In pic 4 one of the circles I cut out is shown bent so that the corners can be rounded on a flap disk. Then I flatten it back out. I should have made that clearer. Hope this helps.
Eldon

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:26 pm
by rahtreelimbs
exnailpounder wrote:Rah...is that one flower copper? That is too badazz. How did you do it?
One is copper and one is stainless steel. I found a website that has printable templates.

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:17 pm
by Millertim
Very cool project,can't wait to try it out!

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:48 am
by AlexG
xwrench wrote:
AlexG wrote:I couldn't understand after picture number 4 how did you cut the steel in the shape of petals?
In pic 4 one of the circles I cut out is shown bent so that the corners can be rounded on a flap disk. Then I flatten it back out. I should have made that clearer. Hope this helps.
Eldon

Now i got it thumbs up.

Re: Making Roses

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:19 am
by AndersK
Heres the pattern I mentioned earlier
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4jhtlZ ... cslist_api

Shout if the link doesnt work

Tip,
either laminate or glue the print to cardboard before cutting.
Makes it easier to scribe the metal with thicker pattern.