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I was just thinking and wondered if it was possible to stick weld at 700 amps on a dynasty 700 and if so what for and with what electrode. Even running 350-400 aps on a dynasty 350/400 seems excessive but I dont know maybe somebody stick welds some 5¨ weldments with 1/2" stick electrodes.
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1/4" electrodes get up in the 400 amp range.
For me, buying a large output machine is to ensure that the duty cycle in the midrange is very high.
For example, my tig has 60% duty cycle at 300 amps and 100% cycle 250 amps. I can tig aluminum as long as a want
If I bought a 250 amp tig, the duty cycle at 250 amps would be too low for my patience level.
A 200 amp machine would not be fun for me, even on steel I like to tig 180-190 amps pretty often.
For me, buying a large output machine is to ensure that the duty cycle in the midrange is very high.
For example, my tig has 60% duty cycle at 300 amps and 100% cycle 250 amps. I can tig aluminum as long as a want
If I bought a 250 amp tig, the duty cycle at 250 amps would be too low for my patience level.
A 200 amp machine would not be fun for me, even on steel I like to tig 180-190 amps pretty often.
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Similar to what Dave said, the machine has to meet or exceed any expectations for its use. In a large fab shop I was in there wasn't a machine in the place that was less than 400A @ 100% duty cycle, and most were Dynasty 600's. On large weldments using 1/2 inch plate and above, deposition rate becomes really important, and with heavier flux cores you can be running at 400+ amps all of the time. Or, when called for, break out a sub-arc machine and really put it down.
One large sub-arc gantry system in the place had a 4 spool system- 1- 1/6th flux core root, 1- DC 5/35 hardwire, and 2- AC 5/32 hard wire. It was a monster and would seam 2 half inch plates together (with 3/8 backer) for 17 feet with a 5/16th gap in about 10 minutes. Once you get into high deposition sub arc the currents go way up.
One large sub-arc gantry system in the place had a 4 spool system- 1- 1/6th flux core root, 1- DC 5/35 hardwire, and 2- AC 5/32 hard wire. It was a monster and would seam 2 half inch plates together (with 3/8 backer) for 17 feet with a 5/16th gap in about 10 minutes. Once you get into high deposition sub arc the currents go way up.
I had dinner this evening with a buddy who is doing some contract work on a bridge in the DC area. He's running 3/8" rods welding 2" thick plate steel to 4" thick I beams. He's pouring the heat to it with well over 400 amps. And its all X-ray work. Not something I'd want to do, nor capable of, but I guess there's an application for nearly every configuration.Farmwelding wrote:I was just thinking and wondered if it was possible to stick weld at 700 amps on a dynasty 700 and if so what for and with what electrode. Even running 350-400 aps on a dynasty 350/400 seems excessive but I dont know maybe somebody stick welds some 5¨ weldments with 1/2" stick electrodes.
i burn jet rods on some load out jobs cant tell you what diameter they are because i never checkedbut they are 1/4 or close to iti normally run them in the 350+ amps range.i sure would like to see a monster rod that burns at 700 amps that would be a beast. probably get some 1/2 round bar and dip it in flux.lol.
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probaly something like a 3/8 rods in XX18 or XXX18 or XX24 1/2 rods start around 800AFarmwelding wrote:I was just thinking and wondered if it was possible to stick weld at 700 amps on a dynasty 700 and if so what for and with what electrode. Even running 350-400 aps on a dynasty 350/400 seems excessive but I dont know maybe somebody stick welds some 5¨ weldments with 1/2" stick electrodes.
now 3/4 rods might be fun to weld with at 1200-2100A lol
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What do you use to get 2100 amps let alone 1200ryanjames170 wrote:probaly something like a 3/8 rods in XX18 or XXX18 or XX24 1/2 rods start around 800AFarmwelding wrote:I was just thinking and wondered if it was possible to stick weld at 700 amps on a dynasty 700 and if so what for and with what electrode. Even running 350-400 aps on a dynasty 350/400 seems excessive but I dont know maybe somebody stick welds some 5¨ weldments with 1/2" stick electrodes.
now 3/4 rods might be fun to weld with at 1200-2100A lol
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What you can do that? Do you just crank three engine drives up and then tie the cables together is that my redneck mind making it super sketchy?Poland308 wrote:2 or 3 machines togeather to run one rod.
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Here's something about that. I've never done it, but there it is.
https://www.millerwelds.com/-/media/mil ... leling.pdf
https://www.millerwelds.com/-/media/mil ... leling.pdf
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