Jodys rule of 33

Raffus · Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:51 pm

Just got the new everlast 210 ext 2015 model. Having troubles trying to figure out a aluminin setup with the new panel. 1/4 inch aluminum plate. 17 ck torch with number 9 cup and gas lens. Any suggestions would help. Thanks u

Rick_H · Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:03 pm

Raffus wrote:Just got the new everlast 210 ext 2015 model. Having troubles trying to figure out a aluminin setup with the new panel. 1/4 inch aluminum plate. 17 ck torch with number 9 cup and gas lens. Any suggestions would help. Thanks u

The rule of 33 is for pulse settings, however alum is a little different. With the alum I'd do 180amps, 75% peak, 25% background an 1-2pps, dab at the pulse, 3/32" tung, 3/32" filler

Oscar · Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:29 pm

Why try and pulse on 1/4" aluminum plate? the machine is already underpowered as it is. Just crank that sucker up and let it run.

AKweldshop · Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:31 am

Pulse will limit the heat you put into the part.

Put it in straight up AC, full pedal, and let it eat.

J & J Speed Shop · Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:11 am

AKweldshop wrote:.............

Put it in straight up AC, full pedal, and let it eat.

You sound like a drag racer???

noddybrian · Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:31 am

Check the " mug shot " topic - not sure he's old enough to drive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
( sorry AK - could'nt resist )

TRACKRANGER · Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:43 am

noddybrian wrote:Check the " mug shot " topic - not sure he's old enough to drive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
( sorry AK - could'nt resist )

Noddy c'mon now, unkind. Never mind about any car, that guy sure can weld, he's keen as, and helps others out heaps. And that's the main reason why he's here, (and the one that matters most).

angus · Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:53 am

Raffus wrote:Just got the new everlast 210 ext 2015 model. Having troubles trying to figure out a aluminin setup with the new panel. 1/4 inch aluminum plate. 17 ck torch with number 9 cup and gas lens. Any suggestions would help. Thanks u

if you are going to be welding 1/4 plate regularly, you might consider a torch that can handle more amperage. also, nix

the pulse.

noddybrian · Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:55 am

OK - I meant no offense by it - I expect AK will take it as a joke - sometimes stuff does'nt come across in text the same as you meant it in your mind ( plus UK sense of humor difference ) - I always respected him & his work ( well except the 6013 hate thing ! ) I like his video's too - just never thought he was that young - I grew up on a farm & welded from an early age so can relate with him - just I'm turned 50 now & feel it some days! Funny thing is you get a mental image of how you expect someone to look based on how they write & most of the pictures look nothing like I thought - anyway sorry AK if comment was out of order.

Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:01 am

UK sense of humour......

:D:D:D:D:D;)

TRACKRANGER · Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:16 am

Noddy B

All Good

I'm sure AK will take it on the chin without any issues. I somehow suspect there's a bigger future in store for Mr AK

AKweldshop · Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:59 pm

noddybrian wrote:OK - I meant no offense by it - I expect AK will take it as a joke - sometimes stuff does'nt come across in text the same as you meant it in your mind ( plus UK sense of humor difference ) - I always respected him & his work ( well except the 6013 hate thing ! ) I like his video's too - just never thought he was that young - I grew up on a farm & welded from an early age so can relate with him - just I'm turned 50 now & feel it some days! Funny thing is you get a mental image of how you expect someone to look based on how they write & most of the pictures look nothing like I thought - anyway sorry AK if comment was out of order.

Noddy, you should know by now that it takes a lot to offend me....

Carry on.....

noddybrian wrote:Check the " mug shot " topic - not sure he's old enough to drive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
( sorry AK - could'nt resist )

Noddy??

Who said I wasn't old enough to drive?

You calling me a helpless runny nosed kid?

TRACKRANGER wrote:Noddy B

All Good

I'm sure AK will take it on the chin without any issues. I somehow suspect there's a bigger future in store for Mr AK

Thanks bro.

Don't worry Trevor, me and noddy go back a little ways.

We're cool

.

soutthpaw · Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:28 pm

Don't pulse aluminum. Really no bead esp on 1/4" slow pulse allows to much cooling.

motox · Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:45 am

what about using pulse on really thin stuff 032 040 aluminum?
my syncrowave 250 does not have that feature but i
just got a htp 221 and it does have pulse.
craig

GreinTime · Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:54 pm

Experiment yourself moto and see what works. If you use a slow pulse, I. E. One pps or slower it can help with your cadence and you can eliminate it once you get the rhythm down. The background current settings have more to do with puddle cooling when using a slow pulse.

motox · Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:46 pm

grein
i don't have problem with my 250 going any alum
just curious about features on inverter
thanks for your info
craig

GreinTime · Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:25 am

I figured you didn't have any issues welding aluminum with the Syncrowave, I was just commenting on some things you can use the pulse for, even though that is not the intended use.

I like to play around with pulse just to see what it does to the puddle and the bead profile. I have never found a situation where I was welding anything that I absolutely needed pulse for, but it helped get back into the rhythm after not welding for a few months.

motox · Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:39 am

sam
ill mess around with the pulse soon.
i just got the inverter up and running so
the features are all new to me.
craig

AndersK · Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:43 am

If you play with low pps you might want to increase the delay time on your helmet. Can be disturbing if the lens switches with the pulses.

motox · Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:08 pm

Anders
thanks that thought never crossed my mind
craig

soutthpaw · Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:35 pm

Missing part of the rule, rule works 33% of the time...

Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:38 am

Raffus wrote:Just got the new everlast 210 ext 2015 model. Having troubles trying to figure out a aluminin setup with the new panel. 1/4 inch aluminum plate. 17 ck torch with number 9 cup and gas lens. Any suggestions would help. Thanks u

hey bud,

I just used one of those new model 210ext tigs and here are the settings I used for an aluminum repair and they worked out pretty well on a 1/2" thick piece for a buildup repair:

AC balance 40
AC freq 77
I used a #8 gas lens (only because I was using it on steels) with argon set to around 20cfh ( probly could have got by with 15 cfh but wanted to extend the electrode for filming.
I set the start amps to around 25 so I would get a crisp start. but if you were welding aluminum sheet metal, probly a lower start amperage would be safer.

hope it helps,
jody
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motox · Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:15 pm

jody
just watched the video on line, great arc shots
and a bunch of useful info.
thank you for taking time to make these videos
they are a great help.
craig
ps love the big TIG finger!

Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:01 pm

Motox,

I'll second everything you said! I love the detail Jody puts in his "no PhD" information.

I'm certain I've sold a TigFinger XL... A friend at work has the TigFinger, but borrowed my XL for a heavy-section job. He's hooked.

Good stuff, here, all around.

Steve S