I had intended to be able to contribute today, for the first time, to the "What I welded today, stick section!" postings. But fate intervened. After breakfast with my fellow members of the local amateur radio club, a monthly event we call "Hams and Eggs" , I headed with Bobcat 225 in tow to a friend's house to build a carport frame from used 2 3/8" oil field pipe.
I laid out the welding leads, hooked the gauges to the tanks, marked the pipe and cut the upset off the first end. I'd no sooner let off the cutting lever on that first cut, than I hear an ominous hissing sound emanating from my O2 regulator. Yep, diaphragm went paws up.
I mumbled a few bad words, broke down the torch setup, wound the welding leads back up...and we'll try again next weekend. Assuming the LWS can get my regulator fixed by then. Otherwise, I just might buy a new set of gauges so I've got spares.
Have you ever noticed that this kind of thing always happens when the job you're on is at a buddy's house...working for beer?
LDB
General welding questions that dont fit in TIG, MIG, Stick, or Certification etc.
Boomer63
- Boomer63
-
Heavy Hitter
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:52 am
-
Location:Indiana near Chicago
I used to tell friends that my services would cost about $1,500 per day - or they could buy the beer. Most of them paid the money .... it was cheaper!
Just a question: Did that Bobcat have a stick welder capability?
One more question: Did you "happen" to have the broken part to get the beer next weekend, too?
LOL!! Just joking!
Good luck!
Just a question: Did that Bobcat have a stick welder capability?
One more question: Did you "happen" to have the broken part to get the beer next weekend, too?
LOL!! Just joking!
Good luck!
- ldbtx
-
Heavy Hitter
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 am
-
Location:North Central Texas
-
Contact:
Yeah, the Bobcat is stick only. You can get a MIG feeder for it, and probably even hook up a TIG torch somehow, but mine's just stick.Boomer63 wrote:I used to tell friends that my services would cost about $1,500 per day - or they could buy the beer. Most of them paid the money .... it was cheaper!
Just a question: Did that Bobcat have a stick welder capability?
One more question: Did you "happen" to have the broken part to get the beer next weekend, too?
LOL!! Just joking!
Good luck!
I probably should carry some kind of broken part for times I want to get out of a "beer job" , but I haven't stick welded in so damn long that I'm starting to have withdrawal symptoms. This would have been my first time to stick weld since my hand surgery, and the cutting torch felt good enough in my hand that I was figuring I might even be able to run a decent bead with some 7018. So, I was actually disappointed that we didn't get to work today.
Maybe next week...
LDB
Miller Bobcat 225
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
- MinnesotaDave
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:57 pm
-
Location:Big Lake/Monticello MN, U.S.A.
Can't think of a better excuse to buy a plasma to plug into the bobcat
Dave J.
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~
Syncro 350
Invertec v250-s
Thermal Arc 161 and 300
MM210
Dialarc
Tried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~
Syncro 350
Invertec v250-s
Thermal Arc 161 and 300
MM210
Dialarc
Tried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
- ldbtx
-
Heavy Hitter
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 am
-
Location:North Central Texas
-
Contact:
I'd stopped at the LWS on the way home from work yesterday (it's on the way as is my local gun shop...can make going home pretty expensive), and drooled over a Hypertherm Powermax 45. Have to figure out if my little 6 gallon air compressor will keep up with the plasma, 'cause I have no intention of toting the 20 gallon vertical around. Like most good things, I'l have to save up for it, but it's in the plans.MinnesotaDave wrote:Can't think of a better excuse to buy a plasma to plug into the bobcat
LDB
Miller Bobcat 225
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
- Braehill
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:16 am
-
Location:Near Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania. Steel Buckle of the Rust Belt
I too was all set up to stick weld some stainless angle yesterday and found out that somebody needed my 316 stick rod more than I did. To add insult to injury, they left one single rod in the can and put it back on the shelf. I too was looking forward to getting a little time in with the stick welder.
I always have a scratch start tig set up ready to go, so I welded it up with it, oh yeah, after I realized I hadn't swapped my leads back and re-sharpened my Tungsten.
You can set up a scratch start tig up on your Bobcat, they weld like a dream too. Torch with a valve and a regulator is all you need.
The part was just a stand to hold a waste water pump up off the bottom of the sump and couldn't be any less critical, I could have used treated lumber if I wanted to. The angle had been outside stacked with a pile of scrap carbon steel and had rust all over it. It was about 110* in the shop and I had no interest in cleaning it up to weld it with the tig. Funny thing is, I did everything that your not suppose to do and it turned out to be some of my best welds in a long time. I didn't clean the rust off, I had a fan blowing right beside me, I had gaps, I never even ground the edges off. The welds were a little dull but a few swipes with a wire brush and they were ready for Instagram. I should have took a couple of pictures of it before it made the plunge.
Len
I always have a scratch start tig set up ready to go, so I welded it up with it, oh yeah, after I realized I hadn't swapped my leads back and re-sharpened my Tungsten.
You can set up a scratch start tig up on your Bobcat, they weld like a dream too. Torch with a valve and a regulator is all you need.
The part was just a stand to hold a waste water pump up off the bottom of the sump and couldn't be any less critical, I could have used treated lumber if I wanted to. The angle had been outside stacked with a pile of scrap carbon steel and had rust all over it. It was about 110* in the shop and I had no interest in cleaning it up to weld it with the tig. Funny thing is, I did everything that your not suppose to do and it turned out to be some of my best welds in a long time. I didn't clean the rust off, I had a fan blowing right beside me, I had gaps, I never even ground the edges off. The welds were a little dull but a few swipes with a wire brush and they were ready for Instagram. I should have took a couple of pictures of it before it made the plunge.
Len
Now go melt something.
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
- ldbtx
-
Heavy Hitter
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 am
-
Location:North Central Texas
-
Contact:
Sounds like you've invented a new zero-labor weld prep protocol for stainless. Nicely done! Glad you at least got to finish your project.
Folks who use up your supplies and don't replace them should be severely punished. And leaving one lone rod in the can is punishable by hanging in some shops, I think.
I'll hold off on investing in a scratch-start TIG setup for the Bobcat until I actually learn to TIG on the AHP AlphaTIG I bought and have only had a chance to run three short beads (to use the term loosely) on. Nice to know it can be done though.
Oh, Len, by the way...Welcome to the forum
LDB
Folks who use up your supplies and don't replace them should be severely punished. And leaving one lone rod in the can is punishable by hanging in some shops, I think.
I'll hold off on investing in a scratch-start TIG setup for the Bobcat until I actually learn to TIG on the AHP AlphaTIG I bought and have only had a chance to run three short beads (to use the term loosely) on. Nice to know it can be done though.
Oh, Len, by the way...Welcome to the forum
LDB
Miller Bobcat 225
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
- Braehill
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:16 am
-
Location:Near Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania. Steel Buckle of the Rust Belt
I have no idea what they would have used the rods for, not a single person here other than me welds at all. We go through an inordinate amount of drill bits here too and I never see anything with new holes in it here, weird. Must of been some home project that required 9.5 lbs. of 316 3/32" rods, 14" long. Maybe tomato stakes or something. If they would have told me they used them I would have replaced them, not my money buying them.
Len
P.S. I'm new here, so thanks for the warm welcome.
Len
P.S. I'm new here, so thanks for the warm welcome.
Now go melt something.
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
- Otto Nobedder
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:40 pm
-
Location:Near New Orleans
Probably busted the flux off, bent them to hooks, and hung s#!t for spray-paint. 'Cause hunting down some mechanic wire is SOOO tedious. And of course they left one in the can, for a reason to leave the can, so they didn't risk getting called out immediately.Braehill wrote:I have no idea what they would have used the rods for...
If you fine a pipe or conduit with some painted hooks hanging, test 'em with your magnet.
Steve S
- Braehill
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:16 am
-
Location:Near Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania. Steel Buckle of the Rust Belt
Sad part is, I think I have the only 4 ex-Navy co-workers who don't paint anything and everything in sight. Like I said, if there's anything getting worked on around here, it's a home project.
One of them called me at 10 am yesterday and asked if he brought his boat in at lunchtime, if I would help him make a mount for a winch. I haven't seen him yet so I guess I can go ahead and eat my lunch. I'm getting too hungry to wait on him.
Len
One of them called me at 10 am yesterday and asked if he brought his boat in at lunchtime, if I would help him make a mount for a winch. I haven't seen him yet so I guess I can go ahead and eat my lunch. I'm getting too hungry to wait on him.
Len
Now go melt something.
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
Instagram @lenny_gforce
Len
- ldbtx
-
Heavy Hitter
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 am
-
Location:North Central Texas
-
Contact:
Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
Went to Tractor Supply and didn't feel like spending a C-note for a new regulator, so I went to the shop at work and borrowed the O2 reg off the torch set there. Nobody's gonna be using it for a while because we're all too busy getting settled into our new planetarium system. So, we'll be back on the carport project tomorrow, and I may get to run a bead yet.
I'll take my regulator to the LWS on Monday and put it in for repair. All is well and Life is Good.
LDB
Went to Tractor Supply and didn't feel like spending a C-note for a new regulator, so I went to the shop at work and borrowed the O2 reg off the torch set there. Nobody's gonna be using it for a while because we're all too busy getting settled into our new planetarium system. So, we'll be back on the carport project tomorrow, and I may get to run a bead yet.
I'll take my regulator to the LWS on Monday and put it in for repair. All is well and Life is Good.
LDB
Miller Bobcat 225
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
Bill Beauregard
- Bill Beauregard
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:32 pm
-
Location:Green Mountains of Vermont
At no time in my life have I worked for beer. I get payed, or donate my services, and bring cider.
- Otto Nobedder
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:40 pm
-
Location:Near New Orleans
I've worked for beer a great many times, as an auto mechanic. My friend (with the three-bay garage) owned a "sketchy" strip club. I became friends with most of the dancers, and would do discount work for them. A front brake service might cost them $25 in parts, a twelve pack of beer, and your company, as I work.Bill Beauregard wrote:At no time in my life have I worked for beer. I get payed, or donate my services, and bring cider.
I've learned a great deal about human nature from experiences like that.
Steve S
Bill Beauregard
- Bill Beauregard
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:32 pm
-
Location:Green Mountains of Vermont
Yeah, that cheap people, especially relatives, will befriend you to get free work. I'm happy to do work for a close friend, I want it to be a real friend, not a parasite.Otto Nobedder wrote:I've worked for beer a great many times, as an auto mechanic. My friend (with the three-bay garage) owned a "sketchy" strip club. I became friends with most of the dancers, and would do discount work for them. A front brake service might cost them $25 in parts, a twelve pack of beer, and your company, as I work.Bill Beauregard wrote:At no time in my life have I worked for beer. I get payed, or donate my services, and bring cider.
I've learned a great deal about human nature from experiences like that.
Steve S
Willie
- MinnesotaDave
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:57 pm
-
Location:Big Lake/Monticello MN, U.S.A.
Very true.Bill Beauregard wrote: Yeah, that cheap people, especially relatives, will befriend you to get free work. I'm happy to do work for a close friend, I want it to be a real friend, not a parasite.
Willie
For many years I had a sign hanging that said "Friends Welcome, Family by Appointment."
Dave J.
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~
Syncro 350
Invertec v250-s
Thermal Arc 161 and 300
MM210
Dialarc
Tried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~
Syncro 350
Invertec v250-s
Thermal Arc 161 and 300
MM210
Dialarc
Tried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
- ldbtx
-
Heavy Hitter
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 am
-
Location:North Central Texas
-
Contact:
The guy I'm doing the carport caper for is a dear friend who I would help out no matter what. Whether he bought tasty beverages or not.
When I said "working for beer" in my earlier post, it was just to point out that gear (at least in my experience) breaks more often on unpaid jobs than on paid jobs.
LDB
When I said "working for beer" in my earlier post, it was just to point out that gear (at least in my experience) breaks more often on unpaid jobs than on paid jobs.
LDB
Miller Bobcat 225
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
Tweco Fabricator 211i
AHP AlphaTIG 200x
Lincoln SP-135+
Hypertherm Powermax 30 Air
ProStar O/A torch
- Otto Nobedder
-
Weldmonger
-
Posts:
-
Joined:Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:40 pm
-
Location:Near New Orleans
Willie, you SERIOUSLY misunderstood me.Bill Beauregard wrote:Yeah, that cheap people, especially relatives, will befriend you to get free work. I'm happy to do work for a close friend, I want it to be a real friend, not a parasite.Otto Nobedder wrote:I've worked for beer a great many times, as an auto mechanic. My friend (with the three-bay garage) owned a "sketchy" strip club. I became friends with most of the dancers, and would do discount work for them. A front brake service might cost them $25 in parts, a twelve pack of beer, and your company, as I work.Bill Beauregard wrote:At no time in my life have I worked for beer. I get payed, or donate my services, and bring cider.
I've learned a great deal about human nature from experiences like that.
Steve S
Willie
Each of these "strippers" were my friends. I knew their real names. I knew their boyfriends. I knew their babies.
I knew their struggles, and why they were stripping.
I'd do a $100 brake job for a twelve-pack of beer, because I was not going to take from some child's dinner.
Working for beer is not so dishonorable as you suggest.
Return to “Welding Forum General Shop Talk”
Jump to
- Introductions & How to Use the Forum
- ↳ Welcome!
- ↳ Member Introductions
- ↳ How to Use the Forum
- ↳ Moderator Applications
- Welding Discussion
- ↳ Metal Cutting
- ↳ Tig Welding - Tig Welding Aluminum - Tig Welding Techniques - Aluminum Tig Welding
- ↳ Mig and Flux Core - gas metal arc welding & flux cored arc welding
- ↳ Stick Welding/Arc Welding - Shielded Metal Arc Welding
- ↳ Welding Forum General Shop Talk
- ↳ Welding Certification - Stick/Arc Welding, Tig Welding, Mig Welding Certification tests - Welding Tests of all kinds
- ↳ Welding Projects - Welding project Ideas - Welding project plans
- ↳ Product Reviews
- ↳ Fuel Gas Heating
- Welding Tips & Tricks
- ↳ Video Discussion
- ↳ Wish List
- Announcements & Feedback
- ↳ Forum News
- ↳ Suggestions, Feedback and Support
- Welding Marketplace
- ↳ Welding Jobs - Industrial Welding Jobs - Pipe Welding Jobs - Tig Welding Jobs
- ↳ Classifieds - Buy, Sell, Trade Used Welding Equipment
- Welding Resources
- ↳ Tradeshows, Seminars and Events
- ↳ The Welding Library
- ↳ Education Opportunities